capt_oats Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) One of the more low-key points about the McAlear thing is that it probably suggests that we've learned from last year. Thinking back to the general angst and "WhY dIDn'T wE OfFEr ThEm NeW coNtrAcTS!!!!!!!!!!!" handwringing after Turnbull and Hastie broke into the team and the erm, challenges that exposure appeared to bring in negotiation it appears this time round we've been in dialogue with at least a few of the #YoungMotherwell team whose deals expire at the end of the season now rather than waiting until they're first team regulars. Semple and Devine have already extended, I've no idea whether the McAlear discussion was prompted by the EPL interest but either way it looks like we at least had a conversation about the possibility of him sticking around. Who knows, maybe we did the same with Turnbull and Hastie last summer but they were reluctant to sign but the fact that we've seen 2 extend and 2 move on (to admittedly "bigger" clubs) whose deals were due to expire in 2020 suggests a bit of a change in approach. I suppose you can probably chuck James Scott into the 'extend' group as well given he's the same age group and signed up until 2022. As it stands the other Young Team players whose contracts expire at the end of the season are: Hemfrey, Hussain, Brown, Cornelius, Kettings and Starrs. Edited July 27, 2019 by capt_oats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one m in Motherwell Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Was Brown not already released? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, one m in Motherwell said: Was Brown not already released? That was Liam Brown. Jack Brown's a defender. Edited July 27, 2019 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellboy1991 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 My worry is that (relatively) big clubs appear to be hoovering up all the promising youngsters they can get their hands on at a VERY early age, but how many of them will actually make the grade? And how many more of them woud have made the grade if they'd stayed at their original club a little longer?Exactly my concern. Especially with the money going around down south. These clubs can afford to stockpile all promising youngsters for relative buttons to them.Take Chelsea for example they had something like 30 players out on loan last season. I’m sure I read somewhere they had around 50 youngsters of the same age group. That’s mental. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marinello Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Re Manzinga I'm inclined to see his signing as similar to Mlumbu last year. Basically a 1 year punt. If it works it works. If he doesn't cut the mustard then no great loss . Don't think Mazinga's signing will have any bearing on signing a striker who is ready to start immediately. Macgennis would suit me fine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marinello Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Apols for spelling. Meant to read Mbulu. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Destroyed within the first sentence right there [emoji23] Obviously that is the best case scenario but it just seems so unrealistic. It's all well and good having lots of excellent young players on your books, they might even win things at youth level, I'm not sure that transcends into senior football though. He's signed for Norwich City, not Real Madrid. Looking at their first team squad, they seem to have a few youth team players who have made the step up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 So that's us sailed through the group in the League Cup and are seeded. What's the betting we draw Hearts away in the next round? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Given that they won their group - that's not a bet I'd touch TBH. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Just now, Swello said: Given that they won their group - that's not a bet I'd touch TBH. Why, they're one of the 8 teams we can draw as they're unseeded 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Liam Donnelly can fair fucking lamp a ball. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, Antiochas III said: Why, they're one of the 8 teams we can draw as they're unseeded Correct. Given our luck in Cup draws and getting paired with Premiership sides, especially away from home, it really would be no surprise if we were drawn away to Hearts. Again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, well fan for life said: Liam Donnelly can fair fucking lamp a ball. Unreal. Looks like he's taking every bit of frustration from last year out on the nets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Correct. Given our luck in Cup draws and getting paired with Premiership sides, especially away from home, it really would be no surprise if we were drawn away to Hearts. Again.And if we do, we'll pump them.We are unstoppable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_MFC Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 What do we reckon our favoured XI will be then?I'd go for:GillespieTaitGallagherDunneCarrollIlicDonnellyCampbell PolworthHyltonScottWe have a scary amount of depth in that side, I guess Sloth will take over from Donnelly eventually but on his form you can't drop him. Also, is Cole injured or has he just really got the 44 curse? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Antiochas III said: Why, they're one of the 8 teams we can draw as they're unseeded 52 minutes ago, MJC said: Correct. Given our luck in Cup draws and getting paired with Premiership sides, especially away from home, it really would be no surprise if we were drawn away to Hearts. Again. Aye - made an arse of that - I thought they were seeded.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermarv Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 39 minutes ago, MP_MFC said: What do we reckon our favoured XI will be then? I'd go for: Gillespie Tait Gallagher Dunne Carroll Ilic Donnelly Campbell Polworth Hylton Scott We have a scary amount of depth in that side, I guess Sloth will take over from Donnelly eventually but on his form you can't drop him. Also, is Cole injured or has he just really got the 44 curse? I think sloth will challenge Polworth for a place. Heard Cole had a niggle and struggling to gain fitness at the moment, hopefully he can prove an asset to our team. Have some good depth out wide with Seedorf with possibly the opportunity of using Long, Cole and Manzinga out wide aswell. Still with Tanner and Turnbull we have some great depth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) Depends on who the "starter" forward Robinson's been talking about is and what sort of shape they're in but I'd guess that, give or take, this is roughly where we are at the moment? He's already hinted that some players are behind others in terms of fitness but given Robinson's got expectations in terms of the intensity he wants his side to play at you'd think that might factor in with guys like Cole, Sloth, Long, Hylton, Seedorf etc at the moment. There's an amount of flexibility below tbf. Maguire can cover DM and CB, Ilic can cover LB as can Tait, the wingers can play on either flank. Edited July 27, 2019 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 I had genuinely forgot about David Turnbull. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianfranco Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 I’d guess the main team selection “problems” have solved themselves. I’m as comfortable as I can remember with Gallagher and Dunne as centre backs and Carroll and Tait look certain starters without Carroll being tested defensively at all. In midfield, I think Sloth will eventually overtake the goal machine Donnelly, but Campbell and Polworth look certain starters until Turnbull comes back. On the wings at the moment, I’d start Hylton and Seedorf. However I’m not convinced about Seedorf or Ilic although I think both will improve tenfold as the seasons goes on. I’d still take Gboly if he’s available and willing. Upfront Scott has shown far more than Long for me so far. I’d start with Scott unless Robinson is seeing something in Cole in training. Goalkeeper is Gillespie unless he starts making mistakes from nowhere. I can’t remember a keeper catching more crosses than him. Class act. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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