nsr Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 32 minutes ago, Antiochas III said: Wait. Student are £5 but 14 and15 year olds are £8... Pretty poor show if correct. Students may not be flush with cash but they'll probably have more to hand than some kid who hasn't left school yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 I only actually went to uni so I could afford to go to football games again tbh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 £29 for the definition of a run-of-the-mill league game is fucking terrible - but I'll go ahead and meekly pay it as I enjoy a trip to Tynecastle. I'm precisely the type of idiot away supporter that clubs rely on. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 I'll pay it if I end up going through and making a day of it as it would only be part of an already expensive day but I can't see me going through just for the game at that price. Twisted logic I know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianfranco Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Not a chance I’m going through at those prices. A one off cup game would be a different story but it simply isn’t worth it. The 25 pounds at Hamilton and Livi weren’t value for money either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Archie McSquackle said: Have Hearts done away with the reduced price tickets for the lower tier? They aren't allowed to charge away fans more than home fans, without reason. They're allowed to charge "unrestricted view" prices higher for away fans, as long as "restricted view" seats are the same as home fans. Bottom tier is classed as restricted. When we went last season they got around it by the claiming the bottom tier was "closed for maintenance", despite the fact there being literally nothing visible happening to it when fans walked in using the same turnstiles, walked through the same corridors, and looked down at the seats. Assume they're pulling the same shite this season when they can. Frankly, it's a disgrace they aren't being pulled up for it. FWIW, Hearts fans are getting tickets for the bottom tier, in the same stand, at £21. Edited September 5, 2019 by RandomGuy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewh Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 They aren't allowed to charge away fans more than home fans, without reason. They're allowed to charge "unrestricted view" prices higher for away fans, as long as "restricted view" seats are the same as home fans. Bottom tier is classed as restricted. When we went last season they got around it by the claiming the bottom tier was "closed for maintenance", despite the fact there being literally nothing visible happening to it when fans walked in using the same turnstiles, walked through the same corridors, and looked down at the seats. Assume they're pulling the same shite this season when they can. Frankly, it's a disgrace they aren't being pulled up for it. FWIW, Hearts fans are getting tickets for the bottom tier, in the same stand, at £21.Hope they get relegated. Again.It would be a just outcome for this dishonesty. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 They aren't allowed to charge away fans more than home fans, without reason. They're allowed to charge "unrestricted view" prices higher for away fans, as long as "restricted view" seats are the same as home fans. Bottom tier is classed as restricted. When we went last season they got around it by the claiming the bottom tier was "closed for maintenance", despite the fact there being literally nothing visible happening to it when fans walked in using the same turnstiles, walked through the same corridors, and looked down at the seats. Assume they're pulling the same shite this season when they can. Frankly, it's a disgrace they aren't being pulled up for it. FWIW, Hearts fans are getting tickets for the bottom tier, in the same stand, at £21.Don't know what it's like for Saints fans but for these sort of games from a Motherwell perspective, fans normally sit wherever despite having a ticket for a particular seat. This of course meant you could buy a lower tier seat and then sit higher up and I'm guessing they would have games with the lower tier almost empty compared to the number of tickets bought. Unfortunately their response seems to have been to remove the cheaper option rather than realise the ridiculous prices stop people from going. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) Clearly it's tumbleweeds around these parts at the moment but I noticed the rumour on Twitter dot com is that Dunne's been offered a new deal in addition to the ones that were already known: Gillespie, Carson and Donnelly. Hardly a massive surprise if that is the case and I suppose the earlier we have those conversations the earlier we'll know whether we're going to have to look to for a replacement or not. With that, and the window having SLAMMED shut, here's who's all out of contract from the First Team next summer (and beyond) as it stands: 2020: GK: Carson, Gillespie, Ferguson DF: Tait, Hartley, Maguire, Dunne, Livingstone MF: Grimshaw, Donnelly, O'Hara (loan expires - contracted until 2021 at Peterborough United) FW: Long, Manzinga, Ilic, Cole (loan expires Jan '20 - contract at Wigan expires Summer 2020) Total: 15 2021: GK: n/a DF: Carroll, Gallagher MF: Campbell, Turnbull, Sloth, Polworth FW: Seedorf, Hylton Total: 8 2022: GK: n/a DF: n/a MF: n/a FW: Scott Total: 1 Reserves/18s in the spoiler. Spoiler 2020: GK: Morrison, Hemfrey DF: Hussain, Brown, MF: Cornelius, Kettings, FW: MacIver, Starrs Total: 8 2021: GK: Connelly DF: Devine, Muir, McDonald, Williamson MF: Semple, Hale, Robertson FW: Cook Total: 9 Edited September 8, 2019 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. X Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 On 05/09/2019 at 18:27, RandomGuy. said: They aren't allowed to charge away fans more than home fans, without reason. They're allowed to charge "unrestricted view" prices higher for away fans, as long as "restricted view" seats are the same as home fans. Bottom tier is classed as restricted. When we went last season they got around it by the claiming the bottom tier was "closed for maintenance", despite the fact there being literally nothing visible happening to it when fans walked in using the same turnstiles, walked through the same corridors, and looked down at the seats. Assume they're pulling the same shite this season when they can. Frankly, it's a disgrace they aren't being pulled up for it. FWIW, Hearts fans are getting tickets for the bottom tier, in the same stand, at £21. "closed for maintenance" that's a new one to me. "a Club which is the Home Club for a League Match or a Play-Off Match is prohibited from charging higher admission prices to accommodation designated for supporters of the Visiting Club than for broadly comparable accommodation designated for use by supporters of the Home Club at the same match. " SPFL Rules I thought it was up to the home football club what tickets were sold to visiting clubs. I don't believe they are obliged to sell away supporters the cheapest tickets. The Rule appears to be the home club can't charge away supporters more for broadly comparable seats in the home end. Hearts not doing anything wrong, technically, but the tickets are vastly overpriced for the shit on show. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casagolda Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 On 08/09/2019 at 13:29, capt_oats said: Clearly it's tumbleweeds around these parts at the moment but I noticed the rumour on Twitter dot com is that Dunne's been offered a new deal in addition to the ones that were already known: Gillespie, Carson and Donnelly. Hardly a massive surprise if that is the case and I suppose the earlier we have those conversations the earlier we'll know whether we're going to have to look to for a replacement or not. Surely it’ll be a case of one or the other with regards to Gillespie/Carson. I’d imagine one plus Ferguson is the best we can hope for next season and I’d be happy with that. As for Donnelly, I’m still not totally sold to be honest. He’s vastly improved from last season and his goal scoring form is as welcome as it is surprising. However, I’m not sure I’d be rushing to hand him a (presumably) decent wage rise on the back of half a dozen decent games. Big fan of Charlie Dunne, he has some excellent attributes(passing isn’t one of them mind) and seems like a cracking guy as well. Hopefully being dropped is the boot up the arse he needs though cause he’s been poor so far this season. Same goes for Tait, who I imagine will also be in line for an extension in the near future. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, Casagolda said: As for Donnelly, I’m still not totally sold to be honest. He’s vastly improved from last season and his goal scoring form is as welcome as it is surprising. However, I’m not sure I’d be rushing to hand him a (presumably) decent wage rise on the back of half a dozen decent games. I sympathise with this view - but I'm assuming that offering him improved terms - just as was the case with the bold Cedric - is a defensive measure to make sure he's not poached off us in January with a PCA just as he comes good. I think this is always going to be the difficult balancing act that the club need to get right - how do you stop players ditching us a' la Hastie? If you wait too long and their agent has been getting interest in the player due to him being noticed and getting a bit of hype, they're signing nothing (or at least, the cost to us goes up hugely) - if you jump in too early after a purple patch, you risk being stuck with someone on a good wage that doesn't justify that hole in your wage budget. I'd use the Well Fans III test - is there more seethe generated when a good player leaves for nothing or when we spunk wages on a dud? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) The other thing with Donnelly - specifically - is that he seems to be back in the international fold now. He looked fine in his cameo for N.I against Luxembourg and O'Neill was talking him up so that potentially puts him in another shop window. He's still only 23 so has plenty time to develop and I guess the Ally Gorrin Experience of last year illustrated that it doesn't actually take that much of a run of form to get you noticed by the English market. Donnelly came through Fulham's Academy alongside the likes of Paddy Roberts and Dembele. He captained that side in the Youth Cup final along with being the N.I u21s record cap holder. If you tie that in with a sustained run of decent form then it's not exactly a hard sell for an agent, even more so if the headlines are: goals from midfield. I think there's still (rightly) a healthy amount of scepticism around him not least because he's only recently been converted to a midfield role and you're looking at a full season where he clearly struggled vs 8 games of good form this season. It feels like a small sample size on which to be dishing out new deals but that's the trade off; the longer you wait and if the form is sustained then the chances of the player extending diminish. Which is a pain in the arse. In a broader sense when you look at the number of players who were either on one year deals or whose contracts were due to expire this time last season (Taylor-Sinclair, Mbulu, Livingstone, Maguire, McHugh, Cadden, Frear, Grimshaw, Rose, Gorrin, Bigirimana, Turnbull, Hastie, Main, Bowman, Newell, Tanner, Scott and Semple) vs how many of those actually signed extensions (Livingstone, Maguire, Turnbull, Scott, Grimshaw and Semple) then starting the conversations about extensions now maybe suggests a bit of a change in strategy. Speaking of changes in strategy, thinking back to Robinson talking post-Hearts about us not having a "target man" and not long after revealing that we had a deal for a striker fall through that we thought we had "over the line" meant there was a general assumption that we were in for a striker (Craigan was talking about it as well - suggesting we wanted a centre back too). The fact that we ended up with neither but brought in O'Hara who is neither a striker or a centre back but is someone we've been regularly linked with over the years made me wonder if, when Robinson's been talking about signing someone who will "start or push those in the first team" it's been a case of us looking at specific players rather than positions ie: when the deal for the striker fell through then that was that because it was someone specific we wanted rather than necessarily a generic forward off the shelf. I've no idea if that was the case but it'd be a sightly different approach for us and I suppose it'd be one that would make sense given the number of bodies we'd got in early(-ish). Edited September 12, 2019 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casagolda Posted September 12, 2019 Author Share Posted September 12, 2019 On signings- I actually heard we’ve had a defender on trial the last week or so that is/was apparently close to signing. Could be miles out but it does tie in with Robinson wanting some defensive cover. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Efe Ambrose. Worth a punt? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 I won't be anywhere near Tynecastle. They can f**k right off. Might Apply for an OU course to get a student card though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazylegsjoe Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 I honestly don't think we need any more defenders. Having Tait and Dunne on the bench in the last game was an embarrassment of riches for a team like this. I'd hate to think we'd stifle Maguire (although he seems to be a midfielder these days) or Devine by signing an also-ran defender who's a free agent in the middle of September. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) The defensive cover's such a weird one to place tbh. You've obviously got Hartley and Dunne for the left side and Gallagher for the right so that's where you'd think the cover would be needed particularly if we're committing to pushing Barry Maguire as a midfielder - as seems to be the case. Unless there's someone who's out of contract cutting about and could double-up on the coaching side of things and/or add to the dressing room then anyone coming in is more than likely covering Gallagher for injury and/or suspension. Back-up right sided centre half at Motherwell is a niche role in anyone's book. On that point I noticed via Modern Fitba'/Rangers Report that Gallagher's numbers are apparently...pretty, pretty good. Edit: there's been a first team squad refresh on the official site...Barry Maguire is now indeed a midfielder and Grimshaw's finally classed a Defender. Edited September 12, 2019 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 "Relative Scoring Chance Supression" Get in the fucking sea. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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