The Saintee Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said: Unofficial Twitter quoting TW as blaming Steve Brown for losing Scobbie. Claiming Scobbie was willing to take a paycut to stay but Brown wanted him off the books. I still struggle to feel too much sympathy for TW in these situations tbh, he signs a raft of shite constantly. Maybe if we'd only given Watson and Coulson one year deals we wouldn't be stuck with them, and the wages would've been there to keep Scobbie. I have total sympathy for TW. Of course he's made some mistakes with transfers, all managers do. However, the constant focus from the chairman on penny pinching is wearisome and just causes bigger problems for the team in the long term. How can he not see that running with one lb is an issue? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paris Hilltoon Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Liam Craig can play left back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthsaint1977 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I have total sympathy for TW. Of course he's made some mistakes with transfers, all managers do. However, the constant focus from the chairman on penny pinching is wearisome and just causes bigger problems for the team in the long term. How can he not see that running with one lb is an issue? The reason foster was signed was due to him being able to play right across the back line IE left right and central. Simple solution is foster right comrie right and shaughnessy and Anderson central . Or shaughnessy right and Kerr Gordon or Gilchrist in central . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Heliums Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 55 minutes ago, The Saintee said: I have total sympathy for TW. Of course he's made some mistakes with transfers, all managers do. However, the constant focus from the chairman on penny pinching is wearisome and just causes bigger problems for the team in the long term. How can he not see that running with one lb is an issue? How can anyone claim the chairman has a 'constant focus' on penny pinching the day after we sign Scougall? I'd imagine the situation is simple and unchanging: Wright has a budget for players. Brown keeps him to it. So if Wright wants to re-sign Mannus and Millar, tempt Scougall here and can't get rid of the players he signed last summer, that takes away from what he can offer others. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saintee Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 14 minutes ago, perthsaint1977 said: The reason foster was signed was due to him being able to play right across the back line IE left right and central. Simple solution is foster right comrie right and shaughnessy and Anderson central . Or shaughnessy right and Kerr Gordon or Gilchrist in central . OK. But now Tommy says he wants to sign an experienced lb. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fife Saint Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I'm still baffled by the Mannus extension tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 It's just the Daily Ranger, and typical Scottish media, at their best making a negative out of a positive. That article has really pissed me off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saintee Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, Mr Heliums said: How can anyone claim the chairman has a 'constant focus' on penny pinching the day after we sign Scougall? I'd imagine the situation is simple and unchanging: Wright has a budget for players. Brown keeps him to it. So if Wright wants to re-sign Mannus and Millar, tempt Scougall here and can't get rid of the players he signed last summer, that takes away from what he can offer others. Football isn't always cut and dry though. Brown doesn't seem to factor in injury or suspension. Tommy knows his squad and isn't saying: " Tam is away but it's fine because Liam can cover there in an emergency." He now wants to sign an experienced defender for cover. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthsaint1977 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 OK. But now Tommy says he wants to sign an experienced lb. Define experienced as the player he has targeted has no top league experience but plenty experience in lower league football so explain that one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saintee Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 1 minute ago, perthsaint1977 said: Define experienced as the player he has targeted has no top league experience but plenty experience in lower league football so explain that one. I'm going by what he said in the YouTube interview. An experienced lb. Surely if he was happy with the defence that you suggested then he wouldn't be targeting any replacement? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Football isn't always cut and dry though. Brown doesn't seem to factor in injury or suspension. Tommy knows his squad and isn't saying: " Tam is away but it's fine because Liam can cover there in an emergency." He now wants to sign an experienced defender for cover. TW shouldn't be spending the budget on back up players like Mannus and Millar, who can only play one position then. You'll likely find they agreed if Watson and Coulson were punted, he could keep Scobbie and Scougall. If not he'd have to decide between them. It was TW who was desperate for those two last season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviemay17 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 1 minute ago, perthsaint1977 said: Define experienced as the player he has targeted has no top league experience but plenty experience in lower league football so explain that one. who is this left back from the championship he is targeting , going through the sides there seems to be paddy boyle - relegated with Ayr Mark docherty - dumbarton Paul Dixon or Sean Dillon - but they do have top flight experience Jason Talbot - Dunfermline Luke Leahy would have been decent but signed for walsall, peter grant is left footed but under contract and not a left back Mark russell or Thomas o'ware from morton, but pretty sure both under contract Jordan Marshall from QOTS, and chris higgins has been released but surely not him Kevin McHattie from Raith but he has top flight experience Or Adam Eckersley from St Mirren , who in fairness was on Man utd's books, and has 100 odd games in denmark so might actually be suited for europe, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthsaint1977 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I'm going by what he said in the YouTube interview. An experienced lb. Surely if he was happy with the defence that you suggested then he wouldn't be targeting any replacement? Yeah so if he signs the player he wants to for LB everyone will scratch their head as to me to be classed as experienced you need to be experienced to the league you will be playing in. This player won't have ever played in the top league. All a bit bizarre. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, perthsaint1977 said: Yeah so if he signs the player he wants to for LB everyone will scratch their head as to me to be classed as experienced you need to be experienced to the league you will be playing in. This player won't have ever played in the top league. All a bit bizarre. Have to disagree with you on this one. Going by your definition Scougall is inexperienced. It's to do with playing senior games as opposed to Under-20's etc no matter the league. You can't class a player with say 250 Championship appearances as inexperienced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saintee Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, perthsaint1977 said: Yeah so if he signs the player he wants to for LB everyone will scratch their head as to me to be classed as experienced you need to be experienced to the league you will be playing in. This player won't have ever played in the top league. All a bit bizarre. It seems to me that Tommy thought he wasn't losing anyone other than Watson/Coulson. He'd targeted Scougall, a striker and a wide player. The chairman punting Scobbie might have screwed that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthsaint1977 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Have to disagree with you on this one. Going by your definition Scougall is inexperienced. It's to do with playing senior games as opposed to Under-20's etc no matter the league. You can't class a player with say 250 Championship appearances as inexperienced. Fair enough argument that. Unless Easton is looking like being out for months, it's a waste of a wage and another kick in the teeth to youth players currently at the club -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saintee Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 1 minute ago, perthsaint1977 said: Fair enough argument that. Unless Easton is looking like being out for months, it's a waste of a wage and another kick in the teeth to youth players currently at the club What kind of age is the lb in question? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthsaint1977 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 It seems to me that Tommy thought he wasn't losing anyone other than Watson/Coulson. He'd targeted Scougall, a striker and a wide player. The chairman punting Scobbie might have screwed that. If Tommy wanted to keep scobbie so much you need to question why talks didn't start with him until the season was over. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saintee Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, perthsaint1977 said: If Tommy wanted to keep scobbie so much you need to question why talks didn't start with him until the season was over. Is Tommy just cutting off his nose to spite his face? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthsaint1977 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Is Tommy just cutting off his nose to spite his face? Don't know but it's a bizarre situation crying over tam leaving when he didn't say to the board/chairman he wanted to keep him until after the rangers game. Sounds like he putting a little pressure on brown to sanction another left back on top of his other targets 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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