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[Dons_1988]

1 minute ago, The_Kincardine said:

Aye.  Imagine thinking you had a reputation worth paying to protect

[Florentine_Pogen]

“Now that the Police have charged an individual with racially abusing Alfredo Morelos at the Old Firm game on 29 December, it is necessary to state yet again that racist abuse, indeed abuse of any form, must never be condoned or dismissed.

 

The first thing to be made clear is that even though many others commented on the issue of abuse (racial and sectarian) directed towards Alfredo Morelos, Rangers had a duty of care not to say anything that might compromise a live Police Scotland investigation. What none of us should ever do, however, is dismiss, or trivialise abusive behaviour as too many media outlets, journalists, and pundits have done in this instance.

 

Perhaps there might be a bout of contrition and one or two may feel a pang of guilt now that the evidence some of them so loudly demanded is there in the form of this charge.

 

If enough of our media had been of a mind to treat the issue with the gravity required from the outset, as normally happens with these issues, there would have been none of the dismissive comments which have helped pollute social media, newspapers and broadcast platforms. Social media is, of course, largely lawless but some of the pieces written and broadcast around Alfredo Morelos in mainstream media were and remain disgraceful.

 

He has been described as a waster, a cheat, an angry brat and one columnist/pundit actually wrote that if you can’t take the vitriol you are in the wrong city. The implication seems to be that the fault lies not with those who choose racism and abuse, but with a young immigrant who chose to come to our country. This is a deeply disturbing attitude and that it was actually expressed in a national newspaper defies belief.

 

When a player is at the centre of an abuse claim he is treated with respect and sensitivity and given support. That is certainly the case in England, but not here and most certainly not with Alfredo Morelos, who is actually being demonised in many quarters of the media.

 

A number of factually incorrect stories have been written and published about Alfredo recently causing a great deal of stress and anxiety within his family at a time when his heavily-pregnant wife should be calm and relaxed.

 

A river of negative and hurtful attention has been flowing towards the Morelos family without thought or concern for the individuals involved and the way they have been treated is shameful. Especially vulgar is the manner in which claims of abuse, racist and sectarian, have been dismissed in some quarters – BBC Scotland in particular – where the overall situation has been mocked amid outrageous claims that Rangers were behind the leaking of certain stories. None of this shows our media and country in a good light.

 

Perhaps now some people will take a long and honest look at themselves and who knows, they might even apologise, but all of this serves only to make Rangers even more committed to our Everyone Anyone campaign. We will not stop or slow our efforts to make Ibrox a place open and welcoming to all.

 

Finally, Rangers would be more than happy to accommodate the young person involved in this latest incident on one of our courses designed to help people understand why racist and sectarian abuse is unacceptable. Indeed, if any of those journalists/pundits who got it so badly wrong would like to attend we’d also welcome and help them.”

 

For posterity. Traynor and Sevco doing Scotland proud.

 

 

[George Parr]

Cringeworthy stuff. I’d be furious if my club released anything remotely similar to that statement. 
 

Traynor has me feeling sympathetic towards decent Rangers fans. A remarkable achievement.

[Stellaboz]

I'm sure a 12 year old has decided on his own to come to this country. 

[Marshmallo]

http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/topic/326443-statement/?do=findComment&comment=1065665228

Wild

[DukDukGoose]

Typical responses.

[KnightswoodBear]

5 minutes ago, Merkland Red said:

Typical responses.

Graham Speirs/Jim Traynor

[Snifter Pee Rot]

We all know Traynor and Sevco are scum, except the bbc

[The_Kincardine]

1 hour ago, Florentine_Pogen said:

Traynor and Sevco doing Scotland proud.

Celticy parents across Glasgow are now encouraging their weans, "Haw, wee man.  Get those logarithms tae f**k.  That Napier was wan o' them and liked salt and sauce on his chips.  Stick to the racism and maybe you'll get a statement from Jim Traynor  before you're even 12"

[Florentine_Pogen]

Celticy parents across Glasgow are now encouraging their weans, "Haw, wee man.  Get those logarithms tae f**k.  That Napier was wan o' them and liked salt and sauce on his chips.  Stick to the racism and maybe you'll get a statement from Jim Traynor  before you're even 12"

Bit early to be leathering the Bombay Sapphire, no ?

[The_Kincardine]

1 minute ago, Florentine_Pogen said:

Bit early to be leathering the Bombay Sapphire, no ?

Same old shite from you.

Whatever you think of Traynor (and I think he's a cock and an embarrassment) you have to think of the environment in which a 12 yo was raised that makes him think using racial abuse was appropriate.

[Florentine_Pogen]

Same old shite from you.
Whatever you think of Traynor (and I think he's a cock and an embarrassment) you have to think of the environment in which a 12 yo was raised that makes him think using racial abuse was appropriate.

Hmmm......that’s an enviable forensic dissection of the matter. Admirable in it’s potential social impact, I’m sure social workers and child psychologists everywhere are hanging on your every word.
Now, how about you explain to us the environment and living conditions in which the Sevco hordes were raised, you know, the folk who belt out the Songbook at every game and give UEFA cause to force your club to close down part of the stadium due to racist chanting ?

[DukDukGoose]

29 minutes ago, KnightswoodBear said:

Graham Speirs/Jim Traynor

In what sense?

[Hawkeye the Gnu]

While I fully agree with Kincy's last post I ask myself, what is the difference between being called a black b******, or a f***** b******.

None are nice and none are clever but these days it seems one is much more sinister than the other these days.

[The_Kincardine]

2 minutes ago, Florentine_Pogen said:

Hmmm......that’s an enviable forensic dissection of the matter. Admirable in it’s potential social impact, I’m sure social workers and child psychologists everywhere are hanging on your every word.
Now, how about you explain to us the environment and living conditions in which the Sevco hordes were raised, you know, the folk who belt out the Songbook at every game and give UEFA cause to force your club to close down part of the stadium due to racist chanting ?
 

1. "that’s an enviable forensic dissection of the matter. Admirable in it’s potential social impact".  Indeed.  Setting aside your abuse of the apostrophe...the wee boy's parenting was woeful.  Culpable, even.  They are the real guilty parties.

2.  "Whataboutery.  Songbook. Something about Rangers".  Same old shite then.

[The_Kincardine]

3 minutes ago, Hawkeye the Gnu said:

While I fully agree with Kincy's last post I ask myself, what is the difference between being called a black b******, or a f***** b******.

None are nice and none are clever but these days it seems one is much more sinister than the other these days.

I'd go for a week without gin before I used either expression.  What's more, I'd see myself having failed as a parent if any of my three even thought about using such invectives.  They never will, of course.

I am regularly called a *** b*****d on P&B.  That's seen as an acceptable slur.

[Florentine_Pogen]

1. "that’s an enviable forensic dissection of the matter. Admirable in it’s potential social impact".  Indeed.  Setting aside your abuse of the apostrophe...the wee boy's parenting was woeful.  Culpable, even.  They are the real guilty parties.
2.  "Whataboutery.  Songbook. Something about Rangers".  Same old shite then.

Firstly, mea maxima culpa on the apostrophe abuse.
Secondly, you do yourself a disservice with your sophistry. Obviously, you are in the “None so blind as those who cannot see” category.

[stressball]

6 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:

1. "that’s an enviable forensic dissection of the matter. Admirable in it’s potential social impact".  Indeed.  Setting aside your abuse of the apostrophe...the wee boy's parenting was woeful.  Culpable, even.  They are the real guilty parties.

2.  "Whataboutery.  Songbook. Something about Rangers".  Same old shite then.

Your not-so veiled shot at a specific fan group and how they raise their children, in itself, is bigotry.

[Dons_1988]

Your not-so veiled shot at a specific fan group and how they raise their children, in itself, is bigotry.

Have to disagree here. The actions of a 12 year old is clearly a reflection of their upbringing.

I don’t think it was meant as a slur against the Celtic support, it’s fair comment.

[The_Kincardine]

11 minutes ago, stressball said:

Your not-so veiled shot at a specific fan group and how they raise their children, in itself, is bigotry.

The Sellick fans on here who pollute our threads know exactly what I think of them so the idea that I'd say anything ' not-so veiled' is preposterous.