Swello Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, akredz said: How hard would it have been to simply condemn the individual involved, and offer access to any support, counselling or help the young man needed or wanted. The statement issued is horrific and it is almost beyond belief that a professional PR company penned and released it. I've only just caught up with this stuff and I can't really believe it. Even taking a bit of the sensationalism away from it and looking at the actual statement - it's a completely reprehensible response to a horrible situation. It maybe gives the best insight yet as to the bunker mentality that exists at Rangers, that they viewed this as an attack on the club (when it really wasn't) and loaded up the statement cannon without any thought for the individual, who like anyone in his situation has shown courage and dignity in talking publicly about something as bad as that. Rangers simply have the worst PR operation that I've seen at a big club - they actively bring ridicule and criticism on the club in equal measure - and by playing up to the basest elements of their support as they have in this case, in my experience they alienate normal Rangers supporters as well as everyone else. Edited May 17, 2018 by Swello 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 For far too long I've heard Rangers fans be apologists for the disgusting behaviour and songs of the (ahem) minority and of the enabling of such behaviour by the club (orange away strip for the "dutch contingent"...aye right) and I almost admire the requisite mental fortitude as the cognitive dissonance would have given me an aneurism. It's also long been the opinion of the majority of the rest of Scottish football (outwith the cheeks) that the Rangers support are, as a collective, vile and verminous thugs who are as welcome at your ground as smallpox. This is a real opportunity to turn the tide of public opinion in their favour by mobilising to protest this callous treatment of a victim of the worst type of abuse within the club. If a large group of Rangers fans congregated outside the ground with as much rage and indignation as we saw when "the big hoose must stay open" fella had his day, then even the most hardened of ***-haters would have to concede that there were some good c***s in the support. Hell, you could do it in partnership with a local charity that helps victims of sexual abuse. Imagine a huge crowd of Rangers fans and young kids standing outside, petitioning the club to honour its obligation to the young players in its care. The Union Bears could even lend them a banner already in use. "We deserve better" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsr Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 They've gone full Fuhrerbunker. Complete denial of the reality of the outside world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 I like how the club have, after 6 years, finally admitted Sevco are a new club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Hang on, who is this professional PR firm? I presumed the statement was written by the in-house press office. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 15 hours ago, The_Kincardine said: Such pathetic evasion. Really. You asked for just one example of *** = Protestant and you got it. Quick summary: The diddies of here agree that '***' doesn't equal Rangers fans. They asked for 'one single example' where *** = Proddy and the got it. I fully expect them to cling to their favourite sectarian term of abuse until they see sense...which may take some time. Let’s put this to bed once and for all. The ‘H’ word is no more sectarian than sheep sh*gg*r, jute b*st*rd, spoon burner and loads more. It is solely a term for a R*ng*rs supporter/player/official. I have my bus pass and am a Protestant, and in all my years have never, ever been called the ‘H’ word, none of my Protestant friends have ever been called the ‘H’ word, apart from R*ng*rs supporting friends. It is simply certain R*ng*rs fans wanting to be seen as being victimised like their Green brethren , and they don’t want to be left out. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingboots Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 2 hours ago, GordonS said: Hang on, who is this professional PR firm? I presumed the statement was written by the in-house press office. Level 5. http://level5pr.co.uk/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Grimes Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/**** Quote As the **** were illiterate and thus kept no records, all surviving accounts were written by enemies of the ****, and none describe the **** as attractive either morally or in appearance. Jordanes, a Goth writing in Italy in 551, a century after the collapse of the Hunnic Empire, describes the **** as a "savage race, which dwelt at first in the swamps, a stunted, foul and puny tribe, scarcely human and having no language save one which bore but slight resemblance to human speech. Spot on IMO 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 1 hour ago, kingjoey said: Let’s put this to bed once and for all. The ‘H’ word is no more sectarian than sheep sh*gg*r, jute b*st*rd, spoon burner and loads more. It is solely a term for a R*ng*rs supporter/player/official. I have my bus pass and am a Protestant, and in all my years have never, ever been called the ‘H’ word, none of my Protestant friends have ever been called the ‘H’ word, apart from R*ng*rs supporting friends. It is simply certain R*ng*rs fans wanting to be seen as being victimised like their Green brethren , and they don’t want to be left out. Didn't the H-word become the direct equivalent to the T-word - meaning' Catholic' - when Nil By Mouth deemed it as such? Good intentions I suppose, but missing out that one refers to a whole religion and the other only refers to a Football Club. Nevertheless, we should respect P&Bs policy as it stands. How ridiculous did Kincardine get last night, eh? Vintage stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yossarian Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 "the **** were illiterate and thus kept no records". Sevco making up for the deficiencies of their forefathers with their weekly statements. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Ken Fitlike said: Didn't the H-word become the direct equivalent to the T-word - meaning' Catholic' - when Nil By Mouth deemed it as such? Good intentions I suppose, but missing out that one refers to a whole religion and the other only refers to a Football Club. Nevertheless, we should respect P&Bs policy as it stands. How ridiculous did Kincardine get last night, eh? Vintage stuff. I don’t view Tim as offensive and I don’t think any Celtic supporter does. It probably is the equivalent though, the **** are just more sensitive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 I feel sad for that Kincardine poster, he started last night trying to be sensible about the Rangers child abuse stuff, then spent the next 8hrs arguing about *** being offensive..and that was 8hrs throughout the night!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Rumours of a move for Mulumbo, he had a good season at killie but at Sevco he'd probably get red carded every game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 39 minutes ago, bennett said: Rumours of a move for Mulumbo, he had a good season at killie but at Sevco he'd probably get red carded every game. Ah, but would he get a game ahead of Defoe, Lucas and Solanke? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, kingjoey said: Ah, but would he get a game ahead of Defoe, Lucas and Solanke? Gotta love close season Sevco. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Let’s put this to bed once and for all. The ‘H’ word is no more sectarian than sheep sh*gg*r, jute b*st*rd, spoon burner and loads more. It is solely a term for a R*ng*rs supporter/player/official. I have my bus pass and am a Protestant, and in all my years have never, ever been called the ‘H’ word, none of my Protestant friends have ever been called the ‘H’ word, apart from R*ng*rs supporting friends. It is simply certain R*ng*rs fans wanting to be seen as being victimised like their Green brethren , and they don’t want to be left out. ^^^ this. Put far more eloquently and succinctly than I haven’t yet managed. But spot on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 6 hours ago, kingjoey said: Let’s put this to bed once and for all. The ‘H’ word is no more sectarian than sheep sh*gg*r, jute b*st*rd, spoon burner and loads more. It is solely a term for a R*ng*rs supporter/player/official. I have my bus pass and am a Protestant, and in all my years have never, ever been called the ‘H’ word, none of my Protestant friends have ever been called the ‘H’ word, apart from R*ng*rs supporting friends. It is simply certain R*ng*rs fans wanting to be seen as being victimised like their Green brethren , and they don’t want to be left out. A *** with a bus fare. Now there’s a novelty! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
young_bairn Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 is alta-pete a level headed sevconian? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB1994 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Did anybody else watch the Facebook/Twitter video BT aired before the play off game? One of the comments that came up was asking if the pundits thought Buffon would be joining in the summer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 On 16/05/2018 at 22:57, williemillersmoustache said: This isn't Northern fucking Ireland MT. Yes, I get that, but was responding to the suggestion that it has been used before in a way that takes it beyond a mere label for Rangers fans. Anyway, I think it's ludicrous that people get animated over this. My personal view is that the term has attracted condemnation, largely in an attempt to create an equivalence with other slurs, that I don't find altogether convincing. However, it's not my call. If it's deemed offensive, it's terribly easy for me not to use it. Why some people on here seem prepared to fight to the death to preserve a right to use the word, I don't know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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