DA Baracus Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 52 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I would love the EU to confirm today that the WA will not be renegotiated. I am pretty sure that will happen. I would also love it if they reaffirmed that an extension to A50 will only be agreed if their is good reason - a GE or second referendum. Sadly I don’t see them doing this. I am also delighted that Bercow is in the chair during this; it could make a massive difference to the outcome. That's just what has happened. And rightly so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 (edited) Fair amount of Brexitphiles banging on about how we would all be talking German if we hadn't won the war. Can someone explain why everyone in Germany, Japan and Italy don't all speak english? After all "we" won the war. Edited February 7, 2019 by Romeo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Until recently I thought Brexit had the potential to cause severe splits in the Tory Party and give Labour a big advantage; an advantage they could take despite the hostility the MSM and right wing Labour MPs have for Corbyn. Whilst severe Tory divisions are still possible I now reckon that the splits in Labour a potentially far greater and will have a far longer lasting affect. Corbyn is betraying the overwhelming majority of Labour members and Labour voters and he will not be forgiven for it. I’m sceptical about a split in the Labour Party but I see the left/right battles re-emerging with many of the newer members who joined to support Corbyn letting their memberships lapse. As someone who always wanted to see a genuine left-of-centre Labour Party I find that frustrating and disappointing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Romeo said: Fair amount of Brexitphiles banging on about how we would al be talking German if we hadn't won the war. Can someone explain why everyone in Germany, Japan and Italy don't all speak english? After all "we" won the war. Lots of them do. But I don’t think it’s anything to do with the war. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 53 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: For over two years the EU has had to become embroiled with one member state which has narrowly voted to leave but which seems to think it can dictate the terms of its departure to twenty seven other member states. And all the while they have been forced to negotiate with a weak, vacillating, stubborn Prime Minister and a procession of hapless Ministers charged with ensuring an orderly process. Arrogance, bravado and ignorance course thro British political life in equal measure. Now we have talk in the UK of martial law, the evacuation of the House of Windsor, medical and food shortages, and on and on. And you fire a cheap shot at Donald Tusk - they should be nominating him for a knighthood for his honesty. They need us more than we need them. Why should Brussels tell us what to do? This is why we voted OUT. Who won the fucking war? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbitterandgrumpy Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 45 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: For over two years the EU has had to become embroiled with one member state which has narrowly voted to leave but which seems to think it can dictate the terms of its departure to twenty seven other member states. And all the while they have been forced to negotiate with a weak, vacillating, stubborn Prime Minister and a procession of hapless Ministers charged with ensuring an orderly process. Arrogance, bravado and ignorance course through British political life in equal measure. Now we have talk in the UK of martial law, the evacuation of the House of Windsor, medical and food shortages, and on and on. And you fire a cheap shot at Donald Tusk - they should be nominating him for a knighthood for his honesty. Dictating the terms of leaving is the bit I've never really understood. We are leaving their club. It's their club, their rules and we were signed up and committed to them. So now we dictate the terms under which we leave? If I'm being incredibly thick here and missing something glaringly obvious, please don't take the piss, just calmly explain in simple terms what that is. As for the arrogance, bravado etc, that's never going to change. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 May going over there and coming back with nothing. What a waste of time. Although Laura Kuenssberg puts some incredible spin on it saying "whatever else happens today even a promise to have more talks means technically at least, the PM won't go home empty handed later" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 https://twitter.com/StewartWood/status/1093492764581478400 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbitterandgrumpy Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Colkitto said: May going over there and coming back with nothing. What a waste of time. Although Laura Kuenssberg puts some incredible spin on it saying "whatever else happens today even a promise to have more talks means technically at least, the PM won't go home empty handed later" At what point will May stop battering her head against a wall? Edited February 7, 2019 by oldbitterandgrumpy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, oldbitterandgrumpy said: At what point will May stop battering her head against a wall? 29th March 2019? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Colkitto said: May going over there and coming back with nothing. What a waste of time. Although Laura Kuenssberg puts some incredible spin on it saying "whatever else happens today even a promise to have more talks means technically at least, the PM won't go home empty handed later" Kuenssberg is Tory arse licker. Sky’s Beth Rigsby is far more objective. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbitterandgrumpy Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Colkitto said: 29th March 2019? Don't hold your breath. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Just now, Granny Danger said: Kuenssberg is Tory arse licker. Sky’s Beth Rigsby is far more objective. I always thought she was Labour given her father is a Labour donor. But she comes across as a Tory I have to say. Maybe she's a Blairite which is pretty much the same thing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Just now, oldbitterandgrumpy said: Don't hold your breath. Yip, bet they cannot even get that right 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Verhofstadt says May told them there will be a backstop Has she told the ERG? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Antlion said: It was meant to be mid February. The rumour is that she’s trying to delay it again. https://mobile.twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1093261983720394754?s=19 Hope it is. My eldest's is up for renewal now and I'd rather he got a red one like the rest of us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 (edited) I heard that the UK government is currently passing legislation to re-introduce mobile roaming charges in Europe. Does anyone know anything about this or the best place to look for verification? I found nothing with a quick search. Edit Ignore me, I found it. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/mobile-roaming-if-theres-no-brexit-deal/mobile-roaming-if-theres-no-brexit-deal Edited February 7, 2019 by cyderspaceman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Venom Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 I sometimes wonder if the British/English see being polite and arrogant as mutually exclusive.'We, the British, arrogant? But we have table manners and say please and queue for things unlike you arrogant Europeans.'Spolier: you're both. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 May: Can I come back and talk about this again sometime? Juncker: Sure, knock yourself out. May to media : We will have further meaningful discussions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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