MONKMAN Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 I see the bigoted scum the DUP are backing Boris, no surprise there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Just now, scoobles said: Charlie would drop dead of a heart attack at the thought of actually working for a living. William would be distraught and go completely postal wiping out the wife and kids. Harry becomes King and England gets its first black Queen. Gammons self combust all over the shires Buck House moves to L.A. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, MONKMAN said: I see the bigoted scum the DUP are backing Boris, no surprise there. "We look farward to re aligning ar interests with those of the new government and lining ar pockets further atchor expunse" Edited August 28, 2019 by GiGi 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Jack D Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Jo Swinson just said on LBC that she has "written to the Queen?" I wonder what that letter said, imagine the leader of the Lib Dems asked the Queen to ignore a sitting Prime Minister? Thats not very liberal or democratic.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunfermline Don Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Big Ears and Camilla Shagbag would be in charge.King Charles v Parliament/Government! Where have I heard that before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Double Jack D said: Jo Swinson just said on LBC that she has "written to the Queen?" I wonder what that letter said, imagine the leader of the Lib Dems asked the Queen to ignore a sitting Prime Minister? Thats not very liberal or democratic.... It's not democratic for a minority government to close parliament in order to force through measures against its will. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Jezza about to go live on cnn right now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Vnoc incoming Jezza about to go live on cnn right now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, doulikefish said: Jezza about to go live on cnn right now Just about the last person across the political spectrum to voice an opinion on this news. Typical Corbyn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 51 minutes ago, Romeo said: What would happen if the queen were to drop dead right now? A93 would probably be closed at Balmoral / Crathie with normal traffic being diverted along the B976 and A939 via Culsh. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senorsoupe Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Not sure how constitutional this would be but it would be amazing if the Queen told Boris to throw his prorogation so far in the sea that it washes up in Calais. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleMoo Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Not sure this changes much to be honest. There was already so little time left to do anything constructive through Parliment. All Boris is doing is playing to the gallery and poking the remainer MPs with a big stick.He'll be hoping those on the remain side become utterly seething, turn to the electorate and say 'see, this is what I'm having to deal with' and then go for an election hoping for an increased majority. The depressing thing is it'll probably work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, senorsoupe said: Not sure how constitutional this would be but it would be amazing if the Queen told Boris to throw his prorogation so far in the sea that it washes up in Calais. Something similar happened with your lot a few years ago. Quote Avoiding a no-confidence motion (Canada 2008) Following Canada’s federal elections in 2008, Stephen Harper formed a minority administration and had recently secured the confidence of the House of Commons in the Canadian equivalent of a Queen’s Speech. Within weeks, however, the two main opposition parties (the Liberals and New Democratic Party) had reached an agreement and wished to form an alternative coalition government. This would, they had agreed, be supported by a confidence and supply arrangement with the Bloc Québécois. A motion of no confidence in the Government was tabled. Rather than face the (then likely) defeat on a vote of no confidence, Stephen Harper asked the Governor General to prorogue Parliament. The arguments made in favour of this prorogation included that: • the Government had not formally lost the confidence of the House, the House’s confidence in the Government had recently been explicitly confirmed, and the Governor General should therefore follow the advice of the Prime Minister; • the opposition pact was fragile and would not form a stable government if the Prime Minister were to resign in favour of it; • there had, mere weeks prior to these events, been a federal election: holding another so soon afterwards would not have been in the interests of responsible government; and • there would, in any case, be another opportunity for confidence in the government to be tested when it brought forward the budget on return from any period of prorogation. The contrary arguments were that: • in Canada prorogation is a “reserve power”: while the Governor General takes advice from the Prime Minister on the exercise of such powers, she is not bound to follow it, especially not where confidence is absent or in question; • a Prime Minister who is about to lose a vote of confidence should not be able to deprive the legislature of a reasonable opportunity to debate the matter: for him even to make the request was an undemocratic abuse of power; • under Canada’s constitutional arrangements a temporary loss of confidence in the Government could be remedied without a castiron requirement for either the Government to resign or another election to be held; and • whatever the Prime Minister’s or Governor General’s assessment of the viability or stability of an alternative Government, that is not a reason in insolation to disregard or prevent the expression of the lack of confidence the House may have in the incumbent administration. In the event the Governor General acceded to the Prime Minister’s request for a prorogation but on the understanding that a budget would be brought forward shortly after the prorogation had elapsed. Crucially, the Governor General took into account, but did not consider herself to be bound by, the advice given by the Prime Minister in this particular context. As events transpired, the political accord between the opposition parties did not last during the period of prorogation. The Harper administration successfully passed its budget and continued in office. http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-8589/CBP-8589.pdf Edited August 28, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 A few Tory MP’s are saying they will back a motion of no confidence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, SweeperDee said: A few Tory MP’s are saying they will back a motion of no confidence. Lose to win. That's the plan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Lose to win. That's the plan.No bother Sun Tzu. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: Where is this fantasy bollocks that the Queen is in any way going to disapprove of a Tory government enough to lift a finger? She's obliged to rubber stamp BoJo's proposal to perogue Parliament. It's just one of the many constitutional absurdities that aflict this country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, MuckleMoo said: Not sure this changes much to be honest. There was already so little time left to do anything constructive through Parliment. All Boris is doing is playing to the gallery and poking the remainer MPs with a big stick. He'll be hoping those on the remain side become utterly seething, turn to the electorate and say 'see, this is what I'm having to deal with' and then go for an election hoping for an increased majority. The depressing thing is it'll probably work. It reduces the chances of a parliamentary solution; on the other hand, it significantly raises the chance of a public disorder event cutting his government's legitimacy away from beneath him. I'm not suggesting that there's going to be some mass Remain rioting in the streets over some parliamentary recess, but If there are political protests against what is seen to be an anti-democratic power grab then it can easily develop into more serious social unrest against a government with a serious legitimacy problem, not least in London itself. If Johnson plays his hand badly then a repeat of the Poll Tax scenes could be on the cards this autumn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Not sure how this will play out but Bercow will do everything he can to ensure Parliament has a say. I think he will give the opposition a huge amount of latitude and his role could prove pivotal. The government losing a VoC might be the best option now but I think Swinson and a few others will still not cooperate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 hour ago, ICTJohnboy said: If Brexit does get become a NO Deal disaster I would blame Corbyn as much as anyone else. The ineptitude of this "so called leader" really beggars belief. 1 hour ago, ICTJohnboy said: It wouldn't have got this far if there had been an effective opposition in place. Sorry, mate, but I just can't let this pass. I'm not even going to ask what Corbyn could have done, as he has defeated the government on many occasions despite the likes of Umunna, Watson and Phillips trying to f**k him over, never mind the braying Hoorays opposite. We know who owns the press in this country, so that coverage is unsurprising, but the role of the BBC in domestic politics in the last five years has been nothing short of a disgrace. ITV and C4 may well have to appeas advertisers (although well done to Doroty Byrne for calling the lying cúnt out last week), but the National Broadcaster has a duty to inform and to be impartial. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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