Brexit slowly becoming a Farce.

[pawpar]

3 minutes ago, Cerberus said:

 

 

A complete nutter of a boy.

 

Not gonna happen according to speaker John Bercow -

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48541352

[Bairnardo]

Ahhh a contest to lead the Tory party.... A true gift from the Indy gods, as batshit mental fuckers compete with eachother for the fsvour of other batshit mental fuckers, to win their coveted position at the expense of.... Well hopefully this utter joke of a "Union"

[beefybake]

1 hour ago, pawpar said:

 

"....The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. Winston Churchill ..."

I expect he said that a few minutes after he'd lost an election.

Who was it said pretty much the above, and then added...   "... till you look at the alternatives.. ".

[John Lambies Doos]

"....The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. Winston Churchill ..."
I expect he said that a few minutes after he'd lost an election.
Who was it said pretty much the above, and then added...   "... till you look at the alternatives.. ".

Or when he was starving large parts of the Indian population

[Granny Danger]

3 hours ago, pawpar said:

Not gonna happen according to speaker John Bercow -

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48541352

Nothing screams reasserting our democratic control quite like denying MPs the right to vote.

[John Lambies Doos]

Nothing screams reasserting our democratic control quite like denying MPs the right to vote.

Or not enacting the will of the people

[Granny Danger]

4 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said:

3 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

Nothing screams reasserting our democratic control quite like denying MPs the right to vote.

Or not enacting the will of the people

Maybe you can explain what the “will of the people”is/was and win yourself a Nobel Prize.

[John Lambies Doos]

Maybe you can explain what the “will of the people”is/was and win yourself a Nobel Prize.

I believe it was to leave the EU. 3 ys on and we are still in the EU and just gone through EU elections.

[O'Kelly Isley III]

I believe it was to leave the EU. 3 ys on and we are still in the EU and just gone through EU elections.

It better happen fuckin' quick as people will need to start organising 10, 20, 25, 40 etc.,year Brexit commemorations.

[John Lambies Doos]

It better happen fuckin' quick as people will need to start organising 10, 20, 25, 40 etc.,year Brexit commemorations.

I don't want it to happen but Granny D (who voted leave btw) was harping on about democracy in his post. I'm merely pointing out that there will be lot of people who think it's undemocratic that we haven't left the EU 3 yrs after referendum and that we just took part in EU elections...

Not sure anyone can really argue about that.

[Tibbermoresaint]

43 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said:

52 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

Maybe you can explain what the “will of the people”is/was and win yourself a Nobel Prize.

I believe it was to leave the EU. 3 ys on and we are still in the EU and just gone through EU elections.

The will of Scotland's people was and is to remain in the EU.

[John Lambies Doos]

The will of Scotland's people was and is to remain in the EU.

Don't disagree with that, but GD was referring to democracy in Westminster

[BawWatchin]

23 hours ago, sfha said:

If anyone threw a shake over Miss Sturgeon would you say "well, that's life" or ....

She's faced far worse tbh. But you'll never find our brave freedom fighting warrior hiding away in a bus like a complete coward.

[The_Kincardine]

On 6/5/2019 at 21:40, MuckleMoo said:

Get Scotland out this clusterfuck asap. Hate, HATE, what Britain has become.

 

On 6/5/2019 at 22:54, beefybake said:

Scotland must be independent, and quite soon. 

Love your impassioned posts and loving the pair of you learning from Brexit and the biggest lesson we must learn is not to repeat the massive mistake of the 2016 poll of shame when Scotland next goes to the ballot box re Independence.  What Brexit has shown us is that a binary poll is the path of idiots and that the electorate need to know much more about what the possible outcomes are.

So for any future Independence referendum we have to go to the polls knowing what the future deal will be between New Scotland and rUK and also between New Scotland and the EU.  If we don't then we'll be in the same hellhole we're in now.

[Tibbermoresaint]

33 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:

 

Love your impassioned posts and loving the pair of you learning from Brexit and the biggest lesson we must learn is not to repeat the massive mistake of the 2016 poll of shame when Scotland next goes to the ballot box re Independence.  What Brexit has shown us is that a binary poll is the path of idiots and that the electorate need to know much more about what the possible outcomes are.

So for any future Independence referendum we have to go to the polls knowing what the future deal will be between New Scotland and rUK and also between New Scotland and the EU.  If we don't then we'll be in the same hellhole we're in now.

You're right. There are no independent countries so clearly we can't say what independence means.

[welshbairn]

22 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:

So for any future Independence referendum we have to go to the polls knowing what the future deal will be between New Scotland and rUK and also between New Scotland and the EU.  If we don't then we'll be in the same hellhole we're in now.

You can't publish the results of negotiations before they've started, but you'll be encouraged to know that the last time around there was a 650 page document published 9 months before the referendum which set out the aims and strategies of the Independence campaign. The UK Government had zero strategy even 9 months after the Brexit referendum when they declared Article 50. So dinna fash.

[The_Kincardine]

6 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

You can't publish the results of negotiations before they've started, but you'll be encouraged to know that the last time around there was a 650 page document published 9 months before the referendum which set out the aims and strategies of the Independence campaign. The UK Government had zero strategy even 9 months after the Brexit referendum when they declared Article 50. So dinna fash.

Indeed.  How dreadful was that?

Any (possible) independence referendum has got to be based on a jointly agreed approach.  This makes absolute sense.

[welshbairn]

10 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:

Indeed.  How dreadful was that?

Any (possible) independence referendum has got to be based on a jointly agreed approach.  This makes absolute sense.

The rUK Government would never agree to rationally discuss any future arrangement before a referendum. The EU conditions for membership are already clear.

Edited June 7, 2019 by welshbairn

[Tibbermoresaint]

6 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:

Indeed.  How dreadful was that?

Any (possible) independence referendum has got to be based on a jointly agreed approach.  This makes absolute sense.

1. Bollocks

2. You're an irrelevant foreigner. It doesn't concern you.

[The_Kincardine]

1 minute ago, welshbairn said:

The EU conditions for membership are already clear.

Obviously they are not and shame on you for claiming that.

1 minute ago, Tibbermoresaint said:

1. Bollocks

2. You're an irrelevant foreigner. It doesn't concern you.

Good stuff.  Looks like your puerile putsch of shame is getting more racist by the day.

Back on topic...of course absolutely no sane person, having gone through the Brexit debacle, would even think that a ScotRef2 was ever likely without knowing  the eventual settlement.