NotThePars Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 8 hours ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said: Tbh I can't really blame those on the left who wouldn't vote Hillary/Biden, they've done little to earn left wing votes and if I had organised for Bernie then I'd have no interest in helping the rat-fuckers either. I'd have to massively hold my nose to vote for them as well. I could be well wide of the mark here but I've just been thinking, is the quiet part amongst those folk not that from a long term electoral point of view Trump/the far right is better for the left than Biden/Hillary/centrists? For all they're pretty shite in their own regard, it doesn't really hold water to say that they aren't a better option than Trump. But having him/the brexity far right of the Tories/the right in general tearing up institutions and norms of government for as long as possible means a higher chance of the left overtaking the centre as the viable party of government. IE, let the right make everything as shit as possible in the hope it foments an awakening of latent left-wing feeling. Those that get fucked in the meantime are collateral but under that way of thinking they'd be no better off under the libs anyway. It's the same as some on here who would rather stick with the overwhelmingly right wing and authoritarian trends in the UK as opposed to the imperfect but broadly progressive goal of independence. The idea that the Tories will make everything shit enough that a properly left Labour party will take power, in spite of the evidence of the last 10 years. Might be a bit tin foily and not necessarily judging it if it is the case, just curious I've not seen it discussed before I don't think anyone actually believes in accelerationism outside of a few weird leftist sects. The funniest thing to me is I think the greatest benefactor of things getting rapidly worse has been the centrists in Scotland. I don't think for a second that even Sturgeon would have preferred a Tory rout in December but it's undoubtedly pushed the independence vote ever closer to becoming an inevitability. I think the broad consensus among the non-voting left is that Biden and co simply haven't earned the vote, which is true. I've also noticed that I haven't seen much push (at least from the people I follow) to get other people to not vote they've simply disengaged from the process. I know Matt Christman's grillpill thing has become a meme but that seems to encapsulate the mindset of a lot of non-voting leftists this time around. Conversely, I think the scolding from liberals about this is to some extent an acknowledgement that they know their man doesn't have really many positive attributes and as such they're resorting to abuse. I had to laugh at today's Chapo right enough when Felix said "so this election is the most important of our lifetimes? Huh, how did that happen then?" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 53 minutes ago, Detournement said: I can see an outcome where the Dems win all three branches then decide bipartisanship is the way forward (again). It's okay I'm sure Bernie will get a big place in the administration or failing that Warren will push through some major reform 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Cindy McCain ? Wait, what's happened to John ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tongue_tied_danny Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Garrison's latest banger, featuring an absolutely seething from beyond the grave Karl Marx and what looks like Steve Buscemi ? at the end of Trumps sword. 2 hours ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: Is it maybe Adam Schiff? It's Marty Feldman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 25 minutes ago, tongue_tied_danny said: It's Marty Feldman Notorious racist Lord Monckton, Shirley. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 41 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Cindy McCain ? Wait, what's happened to John ? Oh no. I think Heaven has another angel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Tonight's the night lads. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Trumps just going to rant about lefties the whole debate and the kung flu might get a mention 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Learning from Clinton's experience Biden should grab the c**t by the baws and tighten his grip for a while. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 I doubt if any of the debates will move the dial. Trump is toast. Admittedly a funny orange coloured toast. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiepiemuncher Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 What time is the debate (uk time) on at tonight? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Anyone having a bet ? Having a few quid on this as I'm very much in support of Biden's anti @Melanius Mullarkey agenda. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 I think Biden will win but a Trump re-election will be worth it for the twitter seethe alone 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Anyone having a bet ? Having a few quid on this as I'm very much in support of Biden's anti @Melanius Mullarkey agenda. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Stubbs Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 I really shouldn't but I'm tempted to stay up and watch this. It's bound to be an absolute mess. If I stay up, I think I'll request odds on Trump getting Biden in a headlock and rooting around for an earpiece like Jim Carrey trying to pull the wifey's wig off in Ace Ventura: Pet Detective. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Alan Stubbs said: I really shouldn't but I'm tempted to stay up and watch this. It's bound to be an absolute mess. If I stay up, I think I'll request odds on Trump getting Biden in a headlock and rooting around for an earpiece like Jim Carrey trying to pull the wifey's wig off in Ace Ventura: Pet Detective. Still devastated that Paddy Power wouldn't take odds on Biden to do push ups 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 f**k, it doesn't start till 2am our time. Hope to wake up to some mad headlines. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 "Person woman man camera TV" at 25/1 for an exact phrase seems a bit underpriced, but I'm tempted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) P.S. Ladbrokes have a better choice. 1st Debate Buzzword Bingo - Which of these exact words or phrases will Trump or Biden use Seven Hundred and Fifty Dollars 1/20 Tremendous 1/6 Climate Change 1/3 Fake News 1/3 Law and Order 2/5 Florida 1/2 Pennsylvania 1/2 Drug Test 4/6 China Virus 8/11 Sleepy Joe 4/5 Twitter 4/5 Texas 10/11 Arizona 1/1 Fake Polls 1/1 Putin 1/1 Radical Socialist 1/1 Rigged Election 1/1 Clinton 5/4 Golf 6/4 McCain 6/4 Reagan 6/4 Founding Fathers 2/1 Hard Working Americans 2/1 Peaceful Transfer 2/1 Bernie 5/2 Unfit for Office 5/2 Brave Troops 3/1 Malarkey 4/1 Nobody Thought it was Possible 4/1 Are You Kidding Me? 5/1 Terrific Person 5/1 Kanye 6/1 Greatest President Ever 8/1 Beautiful Wall 10/1 Brexit 10/1 Lock Him Up 10/1 Person Woman Man Camera TV 10/1 Boris 16/1 Bookies 20/1 Meghan Markle 25/1 Wyoming 25/1 Rhode Island 33/1 https://sports.ladbrokes.com/event/politics/international/us-elections/presidential-election-debates/230979830/all-markets Gone for "hard working Americans". Edited September 29, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Paddys running a book on which fascist measure Trump might bring in is a bit... eh... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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