Detournement Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: Okay, I’ll bite. It’s been shown in this very thread that the Greenwald/Tucker Carlson Hunter Biden laptop exclusive was literally made up, and the editors of the Intercept refused to run the story because it is complete baloney. In what way is it made up? Greenwald argues with evidence that under normal circumstances the veracity of the laptop would be considered verified. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Quote An NBC News correspondent sent a letter two weeks ago to Giuliani, seeking copies of the materials. His lawyer, Robert Costello, granted the correspondent the opportunity to review some Hunter Biden emails and other materials in person. The materials included copies of Hunter Biden identification documents that appeared to be genuine. But without taking possession of the copies, it was not possible to conduct the sort of forensic analysis that might help authenticate the emails and documents. It was Giuliani who ultimately told NBC News he would not be providing a copy of the hard drive. NBC News responded by asking if, instead of a full copy of the hard drive, he could just provide copies of the full set of emails. Giuliani did not agree to that proposal. NBC News then declined an offer of copies of a small group of emails. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 53 minutes ago, welshbairn said: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533 The key source used by Greenwald and Carlson fir this pizzagate twaddle is an AI creation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533 The hard drive has been examined by the FBI who have concluded their is no evidence of Russian or other foreign disinformation. The computer store guy has testified to Congress under oath that his version of events - ie Hunter giving him the laptop - is true. If it's not true he'll be jail bound for a long time. Several people who are recipients of some emails on the hard drive have confirmed them as real. The files have been examined by IT experts who believe they are legit. Neither the Biden campaign nor Hunter have denied that the emails are legit. In normal circumstances this would be more than enough for the media to run with the story (especially a media which continually runs fake stories which have been later retracted) . Greenwald explains and documents all this with links in his article. It's no surprise that it was clearly too long for the two of you to read. Edited October 31, 2020 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Its amazing that Trump only gets challenged by crooks....how long did Hilary get? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Detournement said: The hard drive has been examined by the FBI who have concluded their is no evidence of Russian or other foreign disinformation. Or any wrong doing by Hunter or Joe presumably. Why do you think Giuliani refuses to release the emails or a copy of the hard drive? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Or any wrong doing by Hunter or Joe presumably. Why do you think Giuliani refuses to release the emails or a copy of the hard drive? The FBI also have the hard drive. He owns the hard drive so I guess it's up to him. I think the Wall St Journal , New York Post and the Daily Caller have it. The Burisma stuff and Hunter holding 10% equity in a Chinese venture "for the big guy" is clearly wrong doing unless you are completely credulous. Edited October 31, 2020 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Its amazing that Trump only gets challenged by crooks....how long did Hilary get?To be fair virtually everyone at the top end of US politics is corrupt in some form. Which is why hounding Trump when he gets thumped next week won’t be a good idea at all. A fresh ideologist like AOC will fancy it, the likes of Pelosi and Schumer will be praying it doesn’t happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Just now, Detournement said: The FBI also have the hard drive. He owns the hard drive so I guess it's up to him. I think the Wall St Journal , New York Post and the Daily Caller have it. The Burisma stuff and Hunter holding 10% equity in a Chinese venture "for the big guy" is clearly wrong doing unless you are completely credulous. The reason the Wall Street Journal didn't publish was they didn't get full access and what they were given didn't stand up. The guy who wrote the New York Post story refused to have his byline on it because he couldn't stand it up either. I don't regularly consult the Daily Caller. Does anyone know who "the big guy" is, and why it's wrong? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: The reason the Wall Street Journal didn't publish was they didn't get full access and what they were given didn't stand up. The guy who wrote the New York Post story refused to have his byline on it because he couldn't stand it up either. I don't regularly consult the Daily Caller. Does anyone know who "the big guy" is, and why it's wrong? The Big Guy is obviously Joe Biden. It's wrong because he was Vice President at the time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Detournement said: The Big Guy is obviously Joe Biden. It's wrong because he was Vice President at the time. Not in May 2017 he wasn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 It's dodgy as f**k and not a great look for a Presidential candidate. You have consistently fell on the wrong side of believing in the Steele Dossier and you also fell for the Guardian's fake Manafort/Assange story. You would be better giving your brain a rest and just following GG and Aaron Mate's lead on this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Detournement said: It's dodgy as f**k and not a great look for a Presidential candidate. You have consistently fell on the wrong side of believing in the Steele Dossier and you also fell for the Guardian's fake Manafort/Assange story. You would be better giving your brain a rest and just following GG and Aaron Mate's lead on this. We're all less sceptical about stories we want to be true. That's why you and Greenwald are falling for the Giuliani and Daily Caller spiel hook line and sinker. Anything to save Trumpy. Edited October 31, 2020 by welshbairn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 4 hours ago, Granny Danger said: Looks like Trump unhealthy fast food diet is impacting on his ability to campaign. Considering he couldn't give a single f**k about the safety of other people, this will be purely out of fear that his MAGA hat flies off and his barnet ends up waving around like Cthulhu's tentacles. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Considering he couldn't give a single f**k about the safety of other people, this will be purely out of fear that his MAGA hat flies off and his barnet ends up waving around like Cthulhu's tentacles.Could have procured a Gregory Porter style Velcro chinstrap in order to protect Goldilocks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, Florentine_Pogen said: 37 minutes ago, BigFatTabbyDave said: Considering he couldn't give a single f**k about the safety of other people, this will be purely out of fear that his MAGA hat flies off and his barnet ends up waving around like Cthulhu's tentacles. Could have procured a Gregory Porter style Velcro chinstrap in order to protect Goldilocks. Perfect opportunity to add a propeller on the top too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 https://www.thedailybeast.com/biden-camp-cancels-austin-texas-event-after-pro-trump-ambush-on-campaign-bus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) Seems like a terrifying number of folk in the States are A-OK with fascism these days. I know we tend to lag behind America on trends, but it's difficult to imagine this kind of outright intimidation here. Unless you're Ruth Davidson, of course, who quite enjoys such fantasies. Edited November 1, 2020 by BigFatTabbyDave Pressed Enter during a coughing fit! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 https://www.thedailybeast.com/cops-pepper-spray-voters-as-they-march-to-polls-in-graham-north-carolina Cops Pepper-Spray Voters as They March to Polls in North Carolina 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 2 hours ago, BigFatTabbyDave said: Seems like a terrifying number of folk in the States are A-OK with fascism these days. I know we tend to lag behind America on trends, but it's difficult to imagine this kind of outright intimidation here. Unless you're Ruth Davidson, of course, who quite enjoys such fantasies. I dunno. A Labour MP was murdered in the street by a guy yelling "Britain First" and it didn't put a dent in the numbers for Leave. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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