TxRover Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 8 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said: TBH can't see a court going against Trump on this. Expecting variant of "Fekk the law, it's up to the people" weasel wording. I could see them easily agreeing he’s off, IF Congressional action had agreed on his committing insurrection. However, since Congress failed to convict on the impeachment for that, they won’t allow individual States to make alternate decisions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 For those interested in things like this: https://www.scotusblog.com 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) Trump remains on the ballot in Colorado. As expected, ruling is issued “per curium”* with concurrences. It essentially lays enforcement on Congress, although come of the concurrences aren’t as sanguine. 5 Justices basically require actual Congressional actions to disqualify, the 3 Liberal Justices concur in part but dissent from that requirement. *A “per curium” opinion means the opinion of the Court is published without identifying the writer of the opinion. Edited March 4 by TxRover 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10menwent2mow Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 So. TRUMP is still going to win the Presidency, again, and the rest of the world will laugh and Americans will think 'how did this happen' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 I think we should just accept that America has gone pure mental and start cosying up to China. https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/02/supreme-court-split-over-bump-stock-ban/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 No surprise in that decision. Unless something very weird happens Trump wins easy in November. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 3 hours ago, 10menwent2mow said: So. TRUMP is still going to win the Presidency, again, and the rest of the world will laugh and Americans will think 'how did this happen' America 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 On 04/03/2024 at 16:02, Lex said: No surprise in that decision. Unless something very weird happens Trump wins easy in November. Doubt the easy part, unsure on the win part. Polls right now are meaningless, and the Republican Congress is busy giving Democratic candidates ammunition for the November election, which will have a knock on effect of vote for Biden. Trump’s team pushing the Biden age narrative is likely to backfire if Trump can’t stop confusing leaders in HIS speeches, he was actually booed recently by a “pro-Trump” crowd. As it stands, November looks to be a relative toss-up, with turnout and secondary issues very likely to decide things. The Republican self-immolation on Abortion and IVF is certainly making this much more competitive, and if they shutdown the Government and continue to block border reform/funding while campaigning on border problems, they may reap the whirlwind. Democrats, meanwhile, have to tiptoe around the Biden age issue and keep pushing the we’re governing and they’re not angle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 The primaries are a waste of everybody's time, this year. Has there been a Presidential Election since the early days when they were just making up the rules as they went along when everyone knows who both the main candidates will be so far in advance? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 (edited) 14 hours ago, Bully Wee Villa said: The primaries are a waste of everybody's time, this year. Has there been a Presidential Election since the early days when they were just making up the rules as they went along when everyone knows who both the main candidates will be so far in advance? The Incumbent Party Primary is less important than the Challenging Party Primary, but they are both about down ticket races. Primaries started about the 1912 election, and prior to that there were 4 incumbent Presidents who were rejected for a second run by their party. 1992 was the last serious challenge to a sitting President, and that was marginal. Edited March 6 by TxRover 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Virtually unknown for both parties to be done and dusted, though, is what I meant. 1912 was an exciting election, they should have more like that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) The Donald has paid a $91.6 million appeal bond in the E. Jean Carroll case, and filed an appeal. Edit: Clarifying, Trump did NOT pay a bond, Federal Insurance Company (a branch of Chubb) posted the bond, so Donald paid them a non-refundable premium to secure a supersedeas (or appeal) bond. If the judgement is finally affirmed, that means Trump will still owe the $91.6 million, the fee remains with the Federal Insurance Company. If Trump fails to pay, the bond company will pay the fine and then seek to recover the money from Trump. Edited March 8 by TxRover 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10menwent2mow Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 13 hours ago, TxRover said: If Trump fails to pay, the bond company will pay the fine and then seek to recover the money from Trump. Good luck with that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 I don’t think there will be any sympathy for someone who lends the orange sex offender money then struggles to get it back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 8 hours ago, 10menwent2mow said: Good luck with that. They”d be successful (in the end) simply due to the diversity of the Trump Organization property portfolio. It would be a long slog, but they’d get the money because it’s a small portion of the whole. The organization that agrees to underwrite the appeal bond for the NY Fraud case would have/will have more difficulties.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 On 06/03/2024 at 15:01, Bully Wee Villa said: Virtually unknown for both parties to be done and dusted, though, is what I meant. 1912 was an exciting election, they should have more like that. I can't ever remember a president who lost an election in term 1 to try and get back in 4 years later, has that ever happened before? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) 47 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: I can't ever remember a president who lost an election in term 1 to try and get back in 4 years later, has that ever happened before? Ford considered it in 1980 but was ultimately talked out of running. Hoover tried to run again in 1940, apparently, the most recent time a defeated one term President has had a serious try at re-election. Grover Cleveland (1892) is the only defeated President to make it as far as getting nominated and he won, to become the only President to have two non-successive terms. He is counted as the 22nd and 24th President, officially. Trump would be classed as the 45th and 47th President if he wins in November. Edited March 9 by Bully Wee Villa 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 20 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said: Grover Cleveland (1892) is the only defeated President to make it as far as getting nominated and he won, to become the only President to have two non-successive terms. He is counted as the 22nd and 24th President, officially. Trump would be classed as the 45th and 47th President if he wins in November. I think he also won the popular vote in the one he lost but lost the electoral college? Teddy Roosevelt ran for a third term too - originally he declined to run for a third time and supported Fatty Taft but then they had a falling out and he tried to get nominated, failed, then set up a third party for a run which ultimately failed and let Woodrow Wilson in, IIRC. Of course Teddy's distant cousin Franklin ran four times and won all four, then the amendment was brought in to limit it to two terms. Can't see it being repealed or changed but no doubt the orange one will try if he wins and the Republicans control both houses. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Theodore never ran after losing, though. He was considering running again in 1920 but foolishly died first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 True. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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