The Official Former President Trump thread

[BFTD]

2 hours ago, effeffsee_the2nd said:

I can't ever remember a president who lost an election in term 1 to try and get back in 4 years later, has that ever happened before?

Ah, but has a president ever had an election STOLEN from them by the far-left Biden CRIME FAMILY and the FAKE NEWS media?

(no)

54 minutes ago, Salvo Montalbano said:

I think he also won the popular vote in the one he lost but lost the electoral college?

Teddy Roosevelt ran for a third term too - originally he declined to run for a third time and supported Fatty Taft but then they had a falling out and he tried to get nominated, failed, then set up a third party for a run which ultimately failed and let Woodrow Wilson in, IIRC.

Of course Teddy's distant cousin Franklin ran four times and won all four, then the amendment was brought in to limit it to two terms. Can't see it being repealed or changed but no doubt the orange one will try if he wins and the Republicans control both houses.

Dunno if The Donald has enough time to turn America full fascist before his death, but it's not hard to imagine an anointed heir plastering his marmalade mug all over everything and getting the job done.

Possible Ivanka or Creepy Don Jr. About time America had a hereditary head of state again, considering we still have to put up with one.

[TxRover]

Fun appeal and such developments:

Chubb CEO is a former Trump appointee, who knows what bearing that had on them agreeing to underwrite the bond, but he still has shareholder responsibilities. Also, the bond is written ONLY for this appeal, further appeals would require a new bond.

Surety or fee details have not been released.

E.Jean Carroll does have the option to object to this bond, by Monday, and this would result in a hearing a Monday.

March 25th is Trump’s deadline for an appeal bond or payment of $454 million on the NY fraud case.

Edited March 9 by TxRover

[TxRover]

Whoops forgot to add the £300,000 ($382,000) judgement handed down in London on Thursday.

[Salt n Vinegar]

18 hours ago, Bully Wee Villa said:

Theodore never ran after losing, though. He was considering running again in 1920 but foolishly died first.

Demonstrated a serious lack of judgement there. 

Surely even today's Republicans wouldn't vote for a candidate they know was dead.  Mind you, it'd be an interesting experiment.  Maybe they should give it a go?

[HibeeJibee]

13 hours ago, Salt n Vinegar said:

Demonstrated a serious lack of judgement there. 

Surely even today's Republicans wouldn't vote for a candidate they know was dead.  Mind you, it'd be an interesting experiment.  Maybe they should give it a go?

This is 'Murica... candidates already deceased at time of the vote are elected surprisingly often .

Patsy Mink died of chickenpox complications in late Sep 2002 and got reelected to the House in early Nov!

Hale Boggs and Nick Begich both died in the same plane crash in mid-Oct 1972 but successfully re-entered the House.

Mel Carnahan's entire Senate career was posthumous.


EDIT: More recently:

Dennis Leroy Hof (October 14, 1946 – October 16, 2018) was an American brothel owner. He owned seven legal brothels in Nevada, most notably the Moonlite BunnyRanch. Hof was also a Republican candidate in 2018 for the Nevada Assembly, to which he was posthumously elected less than one month after his death. Hof died in his sleep at his Love Ranch South in Crystal, Nevada, on October 16, 2018, following a party for his 72nd birthday that had been attended by Joe Arpaio, Heidi Fleiss,^[41] Grover Norquist, and Ron Jeremy, the last of whom found Hof unresponsive.^[42] Police did not suspect foul play at the time of his death, and no one who was with him the night before noticed any signs of ill-health.^[42] Hof's legislature campaign manager Chuck Muth said that Hof was "having the time of his life" that night.^[42] It was concluded that he died from a heart attack caused by atherosclerosis and hypertensive heart disease^[43]. His name remained on the ballot (with polling places posting public signage stating that Hof was deceased), and he posthumously won election to the seat over his Democratic opponent, Lesia Romanov, by a 68.3% to 31.7% margin; under Nevada state law, the seat was declared vacant.^[32] 

David Dean Andahl^[1] (October 30, 1964 – October 5, 2020) was an American politician, rancher, land developer and driver.^[2] In the 2020 election, Andahl defeated longtime incumbent Jeff Delzer in the Republican primary for a seat in the North Dakota House of Representatives, but died a month before the November general election due to complications from COVID-19 during the COVID-19 pandemic in North Dakota, twenty-five days before his 56th birthday. Andahl remained on the ballot and was elected posthumously.

Charles M. Turbiville (July 13, 1943 – October 20, 2018) was an American politician, Vietnam combat veteran and member of the South Dakota House of Representatives from 2005-2013 and 2017-2018, as well as the mayor of Deadwood, South Dakota. Turbiville served as mayor of Deadwood, South Dakota from 2013 until his death. He also served as a Republican member for the 31st district in the South Dakota House of Representatives from 2005 to 2013, and again starting from 2017 until his death on October 20, 2018. He died at his home in Deadwood, South Dakota.^[3][4][5] He was reelected to his state house seat on November 6, two and a half weeks after his death, which will be filled by an appointee of the Governor of South Dakota.^[6] Turbiville was interred at Black Hills National Cemetery.^[1]

Edited March 10 by HibeeJibee

[TxRover]

Donald Trump once again likely defamed E. Jean Carroll during a Rome,GA campaign rally on 9 March, one day after posting his appeal bond. Repeating claims it never happened, he doesn’t know who she is, and the criminal Justice system is crooked, Trump may have opened himself up to a third defamation case, where (once again) guilt would be stipulated and the only question for the jury would be the amount of damages. The basic pitch to the jury would be $5 million and then $83 million fines didn’t stop him, so send him a message…

Edited March 11 by TxRover

[BFTD]

On 10/03/2024 at 09:52, Salt n Vinegar said:

Demonstrated a serious lack of judgement there. 

Surely even today's Republicans wouldn't vote for a candidate they know was dead.  Mind you, it'd be an interesting experiment.  Maybe they should give it a go?

If the Mango Mussolini carks it before November, they'll vote for whoever the family endorse as Continuity Trump. Nobody will know nor care who they are.

You do hear about American towns having corpses or cats as Mayor; I wonder if there's actually anything that stipulates the president has to have a pulse. Can't be arsed looking it up.

1 hour ago, TxRover said:

Donald Trump once again likely defamed E. Jean Carroll during a Rome,GA campaign rally on 9 March, one day after posting his appeal bond. Repeating claims it never happened, he doesn’t know who she is, and the criminal Justice system is crooked, Trump may have opened himself up to a third defamation case, where (once again) guilt would be stipulated and the only question for the jury would be the amount of damages. The basic pitch to the jury would be $5 million and then $83 million fines didn’t stop him, so send him a message…

He's clearly very confident that he'll win the election, become the God Emperor, and never have to pay any of this. Either that or his fash mob will protect him/pay it all on his behalf.

Doesn't make him correct, of course, but he's been allowed to live in his own wee world; death will come as a genuine shock for him.

[TxRover]

9 hours ago, BFTD said:

If the Mango Mussolini carks it before November, they'll vote for whoever the family endorse as Continuity Trump. Nobody will know nor care who they are.

You do hear about American towns having corpses or cats as Mayor; I wonder if there's actually anything that stipulates the president has to have a pulse. Can't be arsed looking it up.

He's clearly very confident that he'll win the election, become the God Emperor, and never have to pay any of this. Either that or his fash mob will protect him/pay it all on his behalf.

Doesn't make him correct, of course, but he's been allowed to live in his own wee world; death will come as a genuine shock for him.

Too bad the defamation cases are all distinctly non-Federal, and as President he would not be able to do dick about it.

If Trump (or Biden) snuff it…

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/12/politics/presidential-candidate-race-drop-what-matters/index.html

Edited March 12 by TxRover

[Granny Danger]

The FBI informant who lied about Biden started doing so after being paid $600,000 by a company owned by Trump ‘business associates’.

I am astounded by this revelation!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/14/company-paying-fbi-informant-trump-connections

[carpetmonster]

1 hour ago, Granny Danger said:

The FBI informant who lied about Biden started doing so after being paid $600,000 by a company owned by Trump ‘business associates’.

I am astounded by this revelation!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/14/company-paying-fbi-informant-trump-connections

To be fair, if they actually gave him the money that bit is pretty newsworthy. 

[SandyCromarty]

Trump has declared that he will stop all military support for Ukraine. As of now this has been a one way street financially for all countries supporting Ukraine so this statement by Trump is purely based on money as after the second World War Americans enjoyed their golden years in the 1950s all down to the likes of our Lend Lease agreement reaping millions for them.

I'm not sure how much South Korea pays the US annually for their military presence but it will be plenty, and Japan pays 4.4 Billion Dollars annually for the US military.

[TxRover]

Judge rules Fani Willis can remain in charge of the Georgia case, but must fire Special Prosecutor Wade to do so.

[Frank Quitely]

2 hours ago, TxRover said:

Judge rules Fani Willis can remain in charge of the Georgia case, but must fire Special Prosecutor Wade to do so.

I read this but I wasn't sure if I was looking at a Netflix plot line.

[BFTD]

16 minutes ago, Frank Quitely said:

I read this but I wasn't sure if I was looking at a Netflix plot line.

Looking forward to the PornHub spoof starring "Fanny Willies".

[doulikefish]

35 minutes ago, BFTD said:

Looking forward to the PornHub spoof starring "Fanny Willies".

Not to be seen in Texas as ye Cannae watch  pornhub there now unless you use a VPN 

[MONKMAN]

Trump fails to secure a bond for the fraud case. His lawyers saying it’ll be pretty much impossible to achieve given the vast sums involved. They’ve approached several insurance and bond brokers who want the money upfront cash, and are not not willing take real estate as collateral. They’re look at $557m (120% of settlement) up front plus 2 years interest.

In reality, Trump needs to find almost $600m cash, which he clearly doesn’t have. 

[Brother Blades]

21 minutes ago, MONKMAN said:

Trump fails to secure a bond for the fraud case. His lawyers saying it’ll be pretty much impossible to achieve given the vast sums involved. They’ve approached several insurance and bond brokers who want the money upfront cash, and are not not willing take real estate as collateral. They’re look at $557m (120% of settlement) up front plus 2 years interest.

In reality, Trump needs to find almost $600m cash, which he clearly doesn’t have. 

What are the consequences for not paying it? I understand he can’t appeal until it’s lodged but other than that what happens? 

[TxRover]

18 minutes ago, MONKMAN said:

Trump fails to secure a bond for the fraud case. His lawyers saying it’ll be pretty much impossible to achieve given the vast sums involved. They’ve approached several insurance and bond brokers who want the money upfront cash, and are not not willing take real estate as collateral. They’re look at $557m (120% of settlement) up front plus 2 years interest.

In reality, Trump needs to find almost $600m cash, which he clearly doesn’t have. 

Currently stating that 30 underwriters were approached and all declined to underwrite his ($464,000,000…includes 10 bills for Eric and DonJ) bond. Signed statement from Trumps insurance broker says securing a bond for the full amount “is a practical impossibility.”

They’re down to arguing a bind isn’t necessary due to he value of Trump’s properties…

I thought he said he had the cash, eh?

[TxRover]

4 minutes ago, Brother Blades said:

What are the consequences for not paying it? I understand he can’t appeal until it’s lodged but other than that what happens? 

He can appeal without the bond, however his assets are no longer shielded from the judgement. It was never “necessary” to post the bond, it just prevents the State of New York (in the form of the NY DA) from starting to seize bank accounts and properties. The bond assures the Court that the judgement can be executed during the term of the appeal, and prevents the defendant from moving or hiding assets. In the case of an appeal failing, the bond is paid to the winning party as the judgement.

Edited March 18 by TxRover

[Salt n Vinegar]

1 hour ago, TxRover said:

Currently stating that 30 underwriters were approached and all declined to underwrite his ($464,000,000…includes 10 bills for Eric and DonJ) bond. Signed statement from Trumps insurance broker says securing a bond for the full amount “is a practical impossibility.”

They’re down to arguing a bind isn’t necessary due to he value of Trump’s properties…

I thought he said he had the cash, eh?

Asset rich, cash poor? The git should thank his lucky stars that he doesn't have to pay Council Tax in Edinburgh. Big houses, nae dosh.

(Fekkin autocorrect tried to change the last two words to "name dish".)