TheProgressiveLiberal Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 7 hours ago, EdgarusQPFC said: Are you actually trying to say that believing that Trump was the lesser of two evils because he wouldn't get anything done, vs Clinton who would have gotten everything she wanted, that somehow makes me a racist? As I've said repeatedly, both were terrible choices. Saying both are terrible but one is the lesser is not an endorsement of that candidate. This entire situation just proves how broken the voting system is in the US when you are stuck voting for one of two parties for so long that a vote ends up being between two candidates who are different to one another but pretty much both as bad as each other. Don't let them call you racist. They are the ones with odd opinions about what defines racism. Call them out on it. Recent survey data asked people in 18 countries if they thought ethnically motivated immigration restriction should be considered racist. "A (member of the ethnic majority) who identified with her group and its history supports a proposal to reduce immigration. Her motivation is to maintain her group's share of the population for cultural reasons. Is this person a) racist, b) racially self-interested, which is not racist, c) don't know." White American was used for the US, Hindu for India, Xhosa for South Africa, White Briton for the UK, etc. http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/antiracism-norms-and-immigration/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 He's going to get banned. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 I hear you're a racist now, America? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Don't let them call you racist. They are the ones with odd opinions about what defines racism. Call them out on it. Recent survey data asked people in 18 countries if they thought ethnically motivated immigration restriction should be considered racist. "A (member of the ethnic majority) who identified with her group and its history supports a proposal to reduce immigration. Her motivation is to maintain her group's share of the population for cultural reasons. Is this person a) racist, b) racially self-interested, which is not racist, c) don't know." White American was used for the US, Hindu for India, Xhosa for South Africa, White Briton for the UK, etc. http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/antiracism-norms-and-immigration/ So we are now defining racism by surveys? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 So we are now defining racism by surveys? More challenging stillDefining it in several languages 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Stubbs Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Clinton's a deeply unlikable and robotic politician but I didn't see anything to suggest she was a greater evil than Trump. Domestically, her policies actually looked pretty decent to me. Sanders would've been to thank for that rather than any convictions on her part but still. You can guarantee she'd have been hawkish but still a much safer pair of hands than Donny. His meltdown once it's clear he's done (potentially after the mid-terms) is bound to get messy. The Bernie or Bust and left-leaning #chemtrails types have a lot to answer for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 13 minutes ago, Alan Stubbs said: The Bernie or Bust and left-leaning #chemtrails types have a lot to answer for. It's much more to do with the two party system than the bernie lot, though they didn't help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 (edited) 14 hours ago, Granny Danger said: Trump is getting poor press because he's fucking useless. He promised a whole bunch of stuff and has delivered on none of it. Wall? No. Healthcare? No. Massive infrastructure spending? No. Tax reform (cuts)? No. And this from a Republican President who has a majority in the Senate and the House. What a fucking loser. He's also tried to take credit for the job creation that has occurred since he became President when it is obvious that the economic conditions that led to this were set in play long before he took office. What's laughable is that folk genuinely believed he could deliver better healthcare for less (who knew healthcare was so complicated?), and that he could spends billions more on infrastructure whilst cutting taxes. There must be really thick as shit people in the USA. Ed - here's a better one I saw the other day: Edited August 8, 2017 by Miguel Sanchez 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 57 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: So we are now defining racism by surveys? We are now defining racism by whether or not someone defines themselves as racist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 It's weird how it's the left's fault that the liberal centre are so fucking shit and love pandering to an implacable right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 9 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: Ed - here's a better one I saw the other day: You'd have to be a fucking idiot to think Trump's responsible for that in 200 days. Most of it's meaningless pish and the rest is outright lies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 23 minutes ago, Alan Stubbs said: Clinton's a deeply unlikable and robotic politician but I didn't see anything to suggest she was a greater evil than Trump. Domestically, her policies actually looked pretty decent to me. Sanders would've been to thank for that rather than any convictions on her part but still. You can guarantee she'd have been hawkish but still a much safer pair of hands than Donny. His meltdown once it's clear he's done (potentially after the mid-terms) is bound to get messy. The Bernie or Bust and left-leaning #chemtrails types have a lot to answer for. The way Clinton's eyes shine with excitement when she talks about military stuff and taking people out freaks me out a bit. But agreed, the Donald's far more unpredictable and scary. His ignorance could start a war with a tweet. North Korea for example could think they're under imminent attack and strike at South Korea while they still can. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Just now, welshbairn said: The way Clinton's eyes shine with excitement when she talks about military stuff and taking people out freaks me out a bit. Unfounded hyperbole. Clinton wouldn't have done anything Obama wouldn't have done. That doesn't mean she'd be a great liberal president it just means she'd be a million miles better than Trump. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Just now, Baxter Parp said: Unfounded hyperbole. Clinton wouldn't have done anything Obama wouldn't have done. That doesn't mean she'd be a great liberal president it just means she'd be a million miles better than Trump. Bollocks. She was absolutely livid when she couldn't get Obama to bomb Syrian government targets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Bollocks. She was absolutely livid when she couldn't get Obama to bomb Syrian government targets. Trump's already done it, what's your point? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Just now, Baxter Parp said: Trump's already done it, what's your point? I've already made it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I've already made it. Yet I see nothing to back it up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 I know you like these pointless loops but I'm not playing. My point was perfectly clear and her attitude to Syria is on the record. You're welcome to do your own googling. Over and out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 6 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I know you like these pointless loops but I'm not playing. My point was perfectly clear and her attitude to Syria is on the record. You're welcome to do your own googling. Over and out. You've got f**k all, got it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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