paranoid android Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 In other news, the authorities are now saying we can't appeal Martin's yellow card! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkneil Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 In other news, the authorities are now saying we can't appeal Martin's yellow card! Scottish fitba at its finest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 7 minutes ago, paranoid android said: In other news, the authorities are now saying we can't appeal Martin's yellow card! Full statement The club had intended to appeal the weekend booking of Malaury Martin, who was yellow carded by Andrew Dallas against Motherwell, and indicated an intention to do so on the grounds of “Mistaken Identity”. (i.e. The Referee wrongly identified the player who committed the foul.) Following discussions with the club’s legal advisors and various officials at the SFA, it is clear however that the current rules as they stand, do not cover this specific situation. Put quite simply, we cannot appeal on the grounds of “Mistaken Identity” as the referee did not mistakenly identify our player. He believed the offence was committed by Malaury. The fact that it was not a foul and that the Motherwell player merely tripped over the feet of his own player, means that while it may have been an error to give the foul and to book our player, it was not a case of mistaken identity. The Referee did not mistake Malaury for another Hearts player, which is the only situation that would allow an appeal to be successful in the case of “Mistaken Identity”. Nor can the yellow be rescinded by Referee Dallas as the rules do not allow for this. N.B. Yellow cards can only be appealed in Scotland on two grounds, “simulation” and “mistaken identity” The club is going to pursue a potential rule change at the earliest opportunity so that common sense can prevail in the future and no other player or club suffers a similar fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paranoid android Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 The Motherwell player was tripped by Ainsworth - the ref thought he was tripped by Martin - how is that not mistaken identity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 41 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: Full statement The club had intended to appeal the weekend booking of Malaury Martin, who was yellow carded by Andrew Dallas against Motherwell, and indicated an intention to do so on the grounds of “Mistaken Identity”. (i.e. The Referee wrongly identified the player who committed the foul.) Following discussions with the club’s legal advisors and various officials at the SFA, it is clear however that the current rules as they stand, do not cover this specific situation. Put quite simply, we cannot appeal on the grounds of “Mistaken Identity” as the referee did not mistakenly identify our player. He believed the offence was committed by Malaury. The fact that it was not a foul and that the Motherwell player merely tripped over the feet of his own player, means that while it may have been an error to give the foul and to book our player, it was not a case of mistaken identity. The Referee did not mistake Malaury for another Hearts player, which is the only situation that would allow an appeal to be successful in the case of “Mistaken Identity”. Nor can the yellow be rescinded by Referee Dallas as the rules do not allow for this. N.B. Yellow cards can only be appealed in Scotland on two grounds, “simulation” and “mistaken identity” The club is going to pursue a potential rule change at the earliest opportunity so that common sense can prevail in the future and no other player or club suffers a similar fate. Wot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 The Motherwell player was tripped by Ainsworth - the ref thought he was tripped by Martin - how is that not mistaken identity? My reading of it is; it's not mistaken identity because the ref booked the player he meant to book ie: he's seen the incident, identified the player and booked him.(which is utterly ridiculous) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigie Jambo Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 He mistakenly identified the culprit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aylo vanal Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Can't belive the red is being debated, it's a silly lunge in which he has no control. His back leg comes through making it look even worse. That aside the better team won, thought hearts were patient in possession and wore motherwell down especially after they were reduced to ten men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 He mistakenly identified the culprit Was there a culprit at all? Surely Ainsworth didn't actually commit a foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigie Jambo Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 2 hours ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: Was there a culprit at all? Surely Ainsworth didn't actually commit a foul. The SFA are admonishing this error by blatantly displaying to the world that their rules / definitions are retarded It's still mistaken identity _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolfie Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Dallas just been given the Gers v Morton cup tie! Lanarkshire ref mafia prevails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 19 hours ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: Full statement The club had intended to appeal the weekend booking of Malaury Martin, who was yellow carded by Andrew Dallas against Motherwell, and indicated an intention to do so on the grounds of “Mistaken Identity”. (i.e. The Referee wrongly identified the player who committed the foul.) Following discussions with the club’s legal advisors and various officials at the SFA, it is clear however that the current rules as they stand, do not cover this specific situation. Put quite simply, we cannot appeal on the grounds of “Mistaken Identity” as the referee did not mistakenly identify our player. He believed the offence was committed by Malaury. The fact that it was not a foul and that the Motherwell player merely tripped over the feet of his own player, means that while it may have been an error to give the foul and to book our player, it was not a case of mistaken identity. The Referee did not mistake Malaury for another Hearts player, which is the only situation that would allow an appeal to be successful in the case of “Mistaken Identity”. Nor can the yellow be rescinded by Referee Dallas as the rules do not allow for this. N.B. Yellow cards can only be appealed in Scotland on two grounds, “simulation” and “mistaken identity” The club is going to pursue a potential rule change at the earliest opportunity so that common sense can prevail in the future and no other player or club suffers a similar fate. Wit?! The SFA are really out-doing themselves today. I can accept McHugh's red, but that booking is fucking MENTAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share Posted February 7, 2017 Stewart Regan deserves a pay rise IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 I would say that's unbelievable but it's the sfa we're talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigie Jambo Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Dallas has apparently called the club to apologise for the booking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigie Jambo Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Don’t forget to vote http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-furious-sfa-being-unable-9769461 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share Posted February 7, 2017 Fair play to him for apologising, tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 This was a genuine honest mistake so the ref felt an apology was in order.Its when they go on strike you know they've something to hide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 good result. not a clean tackle. doesnt matter if he got ball first, he needs to work on his timing. was only worth a yellow though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 On 06/02/2017 at 18:48, topcat(The most tip top) said: Full statement The club had intended to appeal the weekend booking of Malaury Martin, who was yellow carded by Andrew Dallas against Motherwell, and indicated an intention to do so on the grounds of “Mistaken Identity”. (i.e. The Referee wrongly identified the player who committed the foul.) Following discussions with the club’s legal advisors and various officials at the SFA, it is clear however that the current rules as they stand, do not cover this specific situation. Put quite simply, we cannot appeal on the grounds of “Mistaken Identity” as the referee did not mistakenly identify our player. He believed the offence was committed by Malaury. The fact that it was not a foul and that the Motherwell player merely tripped over the feet of his own player, means that while it may have been an error to give the foul and to book our player, it was not a case of mistaken identity. The Referee did not mistake Malaury for another Hearts player, which is the only situation that would allow an appeal to be successful in the case of “Mistaken Identity”. Nor can the yellow be rescinded by Referee Dallas as the rules do not allow for this. N.B. Yellow cards can only be appealed in Scotland on two grounds, “simulation” and “mistaken identity” The club is going to pursue a potential rule change at the earliest opportunity so that common sense can prevail in the future and no other player or club suffers a similar fate. Knowing the SFA, they'll probably bring in a Not Proven verdict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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