The Chlamydia Kid Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1321 votes across 8 constituencies could have seen SNP lose another 8 seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, Donathan said: The thing is the people of Scotland probably won't trust the SNP again. They attempted to call a divisive second referendum despite the fact that Scotland didn't want one, and even if they take it off the table it's very easy for the Tories and Labour to claim that the SNP will just call one anyway. Elections are about trust every bit as much as they are about policies. Do you always just parrot others? Divisive? Brexit was divisive and resulted in the murder of a young MP. This election was divisive. Football is divisive - more police resources are spent dealing with morons who can't accept that others support different teams (or different churches) than with the constitution. If you want one voice and total unity, go to North Korea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 The worrying thing for the SNP is that if there's another election this year, a lot of the seats held by the SNP that were safe seats in 2015 are a lot more marginal now, and tactical voting may come in to play.Look at Falkirk for example. 3rd safest seat in Britain in 2015, now Labour get within 5k of winning it and there's a very sizeable Tory vote. Tory > Labour tactical voting could be a factor there. North East Fife will go Lib Dem next time with even the tiniest bit of Tory tactical voting.There aren't a huge amount of very safe SNP seats left As an SNP voter, as long as it isn't a Tory MP that wins, then that's the main thing.Up until the 2015 GE I've not been that fussed about what happens at Westminster, as the SNP can't win there. It was all about Holyrood for me. As long as it's a non-Tory that wins every Scottish seat at Westminster I'll be reasonably pleased. Although, I would prefer decent candidates to win rather than no-hopers.This election has been a disaster for Scotland with the Tories getting 12 more seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, Donathan said: The thing is the people of Scotland probably won't trust the SNP again. They attempted to call a divisive second referendum despite the fact that Scotland didn't want one, and even if they take it off the table it's very easy for the Tories and Labour to claim that the SNP will just call one anyway. Elections are about trust every bit as much as they are about policies. Donnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1321 votes across 8 constituencies could have seen SNP lose another 8 seats. 1557 across 4 could've got them another 4 seats. And 3143 across 5 could've got them another 5 seats. Fun game that. ETA: actually wouldn't even be as much as that as you'd be taking away votes from other parties and adding them to your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Naitch Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Surely not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, Scary Bear said: This election has been a disaster for Scotland with the Tories getting 12 more seats. And to think SNP supporters were laughing at the possibility of them getting 6 seats, haha. Blame Sturgeon. Too much focus on independence rather than getting on with the day job. Had she done that, the SNP probably would still have 50+ seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 And to think SNP supporters were laughing at the possibility of them getting 6 seats, haha. Blame Sturgeon. Too much focus on independence rather than getting on with the day job. Had she done that, the SNP probably would still have 50+ seats. Ironically Sturgeon is the only one who didn't focus on Independence throughout this. Their day job record is actually pretty impressive, by the way. But you've just used that as a sound bite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Labour take Kensington by 20 votes...Pleasing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Earlier this year however she attempted to call a divisive second referendum, before we even knew about this election. I think they've been on a downward spiral since that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 And to think SNP supporters were laughing at the possibility of them getting 6 seats, haha. Blame Sturgeon. Too much focus on independence rather than getting on with the day job. Had she done that, the SNP probably would still have 50+ seats. No, I blame the people who voted Tory. Fairly obvious that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 This election has been a disaster for Scotland with the Tories getting 12 more seats. What a load of pish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 What a load of pish. What's good about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Scary Bear said: No, I blame the people who voted Tory. Fairly obvious that. So you don't think the SNP were at fault at all? Not sure many would agree with you but if that's your opinion fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 So you don't think the SNP were at fault at all? Not sure many would agree with you but if that's your opinion fair enough. No. If people against Indyref2 wanted to protest vote they had Labour or the Lib Dems to go for, both of whom were also standing on a platform of 'no to a deeeeevisie second referendum'. Instead they chose the Tories. Ruth is obviously seen as the main tub thumper for the union and basher of the Nats.Maybe people just like the Tories. Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 No. If people against Indyref2 wanted to protest vote they had Labour or the Lib Dems to go for, both of whom were also standing on a platform of 'no to a deeeeevisie second referendum'. Instead they chose the Tories. Ruth is obviously seen as the main tub thumper for the union and basher of the Nats. Maybe people just like the Tories. Who knows. It's really not changed Its unionist v nationalists... and the nationlists won 60% of seats... that's more than unionists and nationlists in NI. About 50/50 In hindsight result not very surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Labour wasn't a protest vote against Independence ffs it was a vote for Corbyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 It's really not changedIts unionist v nationalists... and the nationlists won 60% of seats... that's more than unionists and nationlists in NI. About 50/50In hindsight result not very surprising. I'd say only about 10 percent of Labour voters will want independence. Never them all anyway. 55-45, as it's been for the past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Labour wasn't a protest vote against Independence ffs it was a vote for Corbyn. This and snp still got 60% of seats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 What's good about it? More Conservatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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