lithgierose Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Whitburn Vale said: No,quite a few in the town have had enough,particularly those of a non sevco persuasion. We were one of the biggest clubs in the East,now we're quite content farting about the doors going nowhere,while others roundabout us move on to bigger and better things. I know of quite a few guys that now stay away from Central Park. Maybe time for a change in who is running the club. No 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 18 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said: Their refusal to join the original superleague set-up goes way back. At least they were able to get up there after a couple of years. Looks like the 2010s as a decade are best forgotten. 2009/10 and 2010/11 saw back to back relegations to the South Division. Then didn't really do much after that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason King Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 4 hours ago, Ginaro said: If the rumours of Kirkcaldy & Dysart and Thornton are true, then surely the other south Fife clubs won't be long in joining them. Rosyth can't have failed to noticed there's a rival club on the other side of the M90 they could be playing. With Inverkeithing's lack of facilities you'd think none of the current Junior clubs would be rejected, but if they had to do work to their grounds then that also shouldn't be a problem. K&D had planning permission for a proper fence enclosing the ground accepted in the summer, Rosyth had planning for a new astro pitch adjacent to their current cage accepted 18 months ago, and Thornton were granted permission for a boundary fence/floodlights in 2011. So Inverkeithing got in when the going was good though, Rosyth may have issues with the clubhouse being around 50 yards from the cage across a road. Glenrothes Strollers didn't get in last year and my memory says part of that was because of the ground. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 6 hours ago, Jason King said: Inverkeithing got in when the going was good though, Rosyth may have issues with the clubhouse being around 50 yards from the cage across a road. Glenrothes Strollers didn't get in last year and my memory says part of that was because of the ground. They failed to turn up at the EoSL meeting, which didn't help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 12 hours ago, Jason King said: Inverkeithing got in when the going was good though, Rosyth may have issues with the clubhouse being around 50 yards from the cage across a road. Glenrothes Strollers didn't get in last year and my memory says part of that was because of the ground. Strollers problem was their ground wasn't fully enclosed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xgates Par Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 15 hours ago, Jason King said: Inverkeithing got in when the going was good though, Rosyth may have issues with the clubhouse being around 50 yards from the cage across a road. Glenrothes Strollers didn't get in last year and my memory says part of that was because of the ground. Rosyth are in limbo as Lidl have not fully committed to redeveloping their old ground and as such Fife Council/Rosyth require the Section 75 money to proceed with the new ground. Been on ongoing saga for a few years though Lidl are expected to start in the first quarter of 2020 if recent Press reports are lead to be believed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Xgates Par said: Rosyth are in limbo as Lidl have not fully committed to redeveloping their old ground and as such Fife Council/Rosyth require the Section 75 money to proceed with the new ground. Been on ongoing saga for a few years though Lidl are expected to start in the first quarter of 2020 if recent Press reports are lead to be believed. Theirs an opening date of march 2021 for the store 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitburn Vale Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 19 hours ago, lithgierose said: Maybe time for a change in who is running the club. No Wholeheartedly agree lr. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Thnk you are overdoing it a bit on the anti-Rangers angle. If you had to name the junior clubs past and present from the east and west that have embraced the pyramid the most Kelty Hearts and Kilwinning Rangers would probably feature prominently... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Wilson Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) On 31/12/2019 at 20:23, Burnie_man said: On 31/12/2019 at 20:08, LongTimeLurker said: My point was that there is nothing right now in the LL constitution that would block Luncarty if they were entering from below by promotion rather than application. Same goes for the subsequent step up to the SPFL. They would wind up in the HL if subsequently relegated, however. Luncarty straddles both areas though, so a bit of common sense should prevail. Forfar West End or Broughty or Lochee are entirely different matters. It would be common sense in this individual case but how long though before other clubs near the line asked for an exception? Tayport may ask to be placed north of the line in any potential future Tayside league. Not that there would be anything wrong with that in itself, but it starts to get messy if say Brechin get relegated and try to insist on playing in the Lowland League. The line might be better redrawn not as a straight one but one curving like most natural borders do to reflect facts on the ground. So Luncaty in the south Tayport in the north although a Fife team in the Highland league doesn't sound right at all, so we are back at square one. Maybe Luncarty should look into relocating to the south end of the village.... Edited January 2, 2020 by Cameron Wilson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 On 31/12/2019 at 18:53, cmontheloknow said: The club had already existed as Linlithgow Rose Community FC for years in the Amateurs. Not a lot to object to? Well your own post a wee bit earlier mentions that Linlithgow Rose "lent" them their name. I was wondering what that meant. IMO there's a big difference between juvenile teams and a member club of the SJFA. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Cameron Wilson said: ...Maybe Luncarty should look into relocating to the south end of the village.... As things stand there is no obvious rule stopping Luncarty in terms of the EoS and LL constitutions if the EoS clubs agree to accept them. The HL only enters the picture in terms of clearly written rules, if they get relegated from the SPFL and how likely is that for a club like Luncarty? Edited January 2, 2020 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, GordonS said: Well your own post a wee bit earlier mentions that Linlithgow Rose "lent" them their name. I was wondering what that meant. IMO there's a big difference between juvenile teams and a member club of the SJFA. And I provided a link to the source information. I did not mean 'lent' as in 'given for a short period of time' - it's a turn of phrase. I am sure that LRFC would have had to OK the using of it - maybe there was some benefit to them? https://mylinlithgow.com/directory/listing/community-groups/linlithgow-rose-community-football-club/ "Linlithgow Rose Community Football Club was formed in 1992 and has grown to be one of the largest youth football organisations in West Lothian. Founded as Bailielands FC, the club changed its name to be inclusive of the whole town. We exist to afford the youth of Linlithgow and the surrounding area the opportunity to play football within a Community based Club. Currently, with over 50 qualified coaches and a dedicated Goalkeeping School, the Club continues to develop and become an integral part of the local community. April 2012 saw Linlithgow Rose CFC awarded Community Level in both the SFA Quality Mark and West Lothian Councils Club Accreditation Scheme. With a membership base of c500 players, involved through, girls, soccer 4's, soccer 7's, 11-a-side, Amateur and Junior, dedicated goalkeeping school, and a Refereeing Programme - Linlithgow Rose Community Football Club deliver a pathway to all levels of Football. We are a Scottish charity and the club's intentions are to provide a well run and managed community football club with all the appropriate policies, procedures and criteria in place to deliver fun, planned, and safe football-related activities." Edited January 2, 2020 by cmontheloknow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 hour ago, cmontheloknow said: And I provided a link to the source information. I did not mean 'lent' as in 'given for a short period of time' - it's a turn of phrase. I am sure that LRFC would have had to OK the using of it - maybe there was some benefit to them? https://mylinlithgow.com/directory/listing/community-groups/linlithgow-rose-community-football-club/ "Linlithgow Rose Community Football Club was formed in 1992 and has grown to be one of the largest youth football organisations in West Lothian. Founded as Bailielands FC, the club changed its name to be inclusive of the whole town. We exist to afford the youth of Linlithgow and the surrounding area the opportunity to play football within a Community based Club. Currently, with over 50 qualified coaches and a dedicated Goalkeeping School, the Club continues to develop and become an integral part of the local community. April 2012 saw Linlithgow Rose CFC awarded Community Level in both the SFA Quality Mark and West Lothian Councils Club Accreditation Scheme. With a membership base of c500 players, involved through, girls, soccer 4's, soccer 7's, 11-a-side, Amateur and Junior, dedicated goalkeeping school, and a Refereeing Programme - Linlithgow Rose Community Football Club deliver a pathway to all levels of Football. We are a Scottish charity and the club's intentions are to provide a well run and managed community football club with all the appropriate policies, procedures and criteria in place to deliver fun, planned, and safe football-related activities." The solution is for the junior club to modify the club's name to Linlithgow Community FC. This name would be "inclusive of the whole town" as you suggest, whilst not giving the misleading impression that it is connected with Linlithgow Rose FC. Simple !! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Cameron Wilson said: It would be common sense in this individual case but how long though before other clubs near the line asked for an exception? Tayport may ask to be placed north of the line in any potential future Tayside league. Not that there would be anything wrong with that in itself, but it starts to get messy if say Brechin get relegated and try to insist on playing in the Lowland League. The line might be better redrawn not as a straight one but one curving like most natural borders do to reflect facts on the ground. So Luncaty in the south Tayport in the north although a Fife team in the Highland league doesn't sound right at all, so we are back at square one. Maybe Luncarty should look into relocating to the south end of the village.... Well clearly Luncarty are an unusual case as their village straddles the line, so they are probably in the unique position of being able to apply for leagues in both areas (does it really matter where the ground is within the village?). Tayport are in Fife so can apply for the EoS, upto them if they want to do so, but it's currently their only route into the pyramid and senior football (same with Luncarty). I don't think you can realistically move the boundary to include a part of Fife in the HL, no chance that will happen. Edited January 2, 2020 by Burnie_man 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 35 minutes ago, Burnie_man said: ...(does it really matter where the ground is within the village?).... It does if you think the exact line of latitude that is mentioned in the SPFL relegation rule determines everything rigidly down to the level of the EoS league as you and others have been arguing on here for the last couple of years. Meanwhile Clydebank could have been in the EoS this season if they wanted to be, so if there is scope for plenty of flexibility going west, it's not clear why the EoS would have an issue with accepting all junior clubs in Perthshire, Dundee and Angus when the SFA don't seem to think it's a problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 19 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: It does if you think the exact line of latitude that is mentioned in the SPFL relegation rule determines everything rigidly down to the level of the EoS league as you and others have been arguing on here for the last couple of years. Meanwhile Clydebank could have been in the EoS this season if they wanted to be, so if there is scope for plenty of flexibility going west, it's not clear why the EoS would have an issue with accepting all junior clubs in Perthshire, Dundee and Angus when the SFA don't seem to think it's a problem. Because the LL would have an issue with north of Tay clubs playing in one of its feeders. The reason the EoS could of accepted Clydebank is that they would still be in LL region, and SoS aren't bothered about Glasgow area sides going east. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Because the LL is for clubs in lowland areas, Glasgow included. Anything below the boundary line...... The HL is for Highland areas, anything above the boundary line. Pretty straight forward really. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 31 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: It does if you think the exact line of latitude that is mentioned in the SPFL relegation rule determines everything rigidly down to the level of the EoS league as you and others have been arguing on here for the last couple of years. Meanwhile Clydebank could have been in the EoS this season if they wanted to be, so if there is scope for plenty of flexibility going west, it's not clear why the EoS would have an issue with accepting all junior clubs in Perthshire, Dundee and Angus when the SFA don't seem to think it's a problem. Luncarty straddles the line, so as explained it's a unique situation which would be looked on sensibly I expect, I doubt the actual location of the ground within the village is going to be a major concern. There are no other instances of this that I am aware of, Clydebank are a LL area club, and there is currently no East or West boundary, so that's irrelevant. Sensibly, the EoS currently won't accept clubs from outwith the LL area for obvious reasons. You seem to have had a bee in your bonnet with the EoS for a while, no change for 2020 then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 minute ago, G4Mac said: Because the LL is for clubs in lowland areas, Glasgow included. Anything below the boundary line...... The HL is for Highland areas, anything above the boundary line. Pretty straight forward really. Dundee and Angus are lowland areas. The SFA don't seem to think the Tay Bridge line is the be all and end all in the PWG minutes that have circulated on here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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