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9 minutes ago, Jason King said:

A wee map of where the teams that have applied and where this seasons EoS teams are based - will be interesting to see how they split this, that's a lot of trips to Edinburgh for Dunipace whichever way it works out.

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Burnieman wont be happy - you've missed out Blackburn!

Also an interesting map as, by my reckoning, there are in contrast only 5 Juniors left across East Lothian, Midlothian and Edinburgh?

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1 minute ago, HibeeJibee said:

Burnieman wont be happy - you've missed out Blackburn!

Also an interesting map as, by my reckoning, there are in contrast only 5 Juniors left across East Lothian, Midlothian and Edinburgh?

Yes: Arniston, Craigroyston, Newtongrange, Penicuik - who all said yes in the survey, plus Dunbar who didn't respond. Surely a matter of time before they all join the EoS to get their derby games back.

Also, Hawick were missed out as well.

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Point of interest, had none of the new clubs applied (many of which are closer than the existing clubs in EoS) Dunipace's increase in travel over staying in the west (with that league restructure) was an average of 7 miles per round trip, but that was with 4 really long trips, the majority were shorter than going west.

With the new clubs (which were unknown when that was calculated) it is conceivable that (depending on what division they end up in with it likely the borders teams will now be split so not 4 long trips), their average travel for this move could actually reduce.

Also, Stirling Uni and Camelon are 9 and about 3 miles respectively. Closest games in the west was just under 30 (from memory), so there's actually potential for some local games that the club has never really had.

This may have been one of the many things considered. ;)

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Worth recalling not all these clubs are entering seniordom for the first time btw.

Bonnyrigg were senior until 1897; Dalkeith until 1895; Easthouses 1969-2015. Clydebank's backstory is well-known.

Paties Road hosted senior football for part of its life (Heriot-Watt College and Postal United).

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1 hour ago, Jason King said:

A wee map of where the teams that have applied and where this seasons EoS teams are based - will be interesting to see how they split this, that's a lot of trips to Edinburgh for Dunipace whichever way it works out.

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You do realise denny about 10 mins from Camelon and noone bats an eye lid about us going to Edinburgh 

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I'm staying put on this thread now. It's getting a bit too acrimonious on the junior thread. There are some very bitter guys over there, Armadale, what are they like? All the best for the new clubs in the EOS next season. Hopefully I can persuade she who must be obeyed that she fancies a trip to Edinburgh so I can catch a couple of games.

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Question - I appreciate this may be a stoopid one.

Kelty are now members of the Fife FA and enter the Fife Cup with the Fife senior teams

I assume it's equivalent is the East of Scotland FA, if so, why isn't there a competition involving all senior clubs in membership  ie Hearts, Hibs, Edinburgh City, Livingston, Berwick plus the LL and EoS member clubs?    I'm looking at you HJ.

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Most of next seasons EoS, Kelty and LTHV both there - VoL not there!!!!
No matter if it's a geographical split or based on seeding I'm genuinely looking forward to all the trips next season aside from Stirling Uni EoS (and maybe Leith/LTHV but at least they should be competitive). Decision made tonight, jacking the SPFL for next season!
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25 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:

Question - I appreciate this may be a stoopid one.

Kelty are now members of the Fife FA and enter the Fife Cup with the Fife senior teams

I assume it's equivalent is the East of Scotland FA, if so, why isn't there a competition involving all senior clubs in membership  ie Hearts, Hibs, Edinburgh City, Livingston, Berwick plus the LL and EoS member clubs?    I'm looking at you HJ.

I think the (Football Nation) East of Scotland Qualifying Cup includes all non-SPFL EoSFA clubs, then the finalists play against Berwick and Edinburgh City to win the East of Scotland Cup. Though the semi-finals don't seem to have taken place this year...

Livingston aren't listed as a member club on the EoS website, and presumably Hearts/Hibs would be too strong for the rest?

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3 minutes ago, Ginaro said:

I think the (Football Nation) East of Scotland Qualifying Cup includes all non-SPFL EoSFA clubs, then the finalists play against Berwick and Edinburgh City to win the East of Scotland Cup. Though the semi-finals don't seem to have taken place this year...

Livingston aren't listed as a member club on the EoS website, and presumably Hearts/Hibs would be too strong for the rest?

The general gist was the QC finalists met the two lower ranking SFL clubs (latterly Berwick and Meadowbank, previous to which were St Bernard's and Leith Athletic) in the City Cup with the finalists of that competition entering the Shield against Hearts and Hibs. The Shield is now an under-age competition.

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These are the cup competitions contested by EOS League clubs:

  1  
Scottish Cup ... for SFA members and qualifiers
OR
Alex Jack Cup ... for clubs not playing in the Scottish Cup. All in. Played on the same dates as the Scottish Cup, with the final usually in October or November. Winner play the champion of the equivalent SOSL tournament in the South & East of Scotland Cup-Winners' Shield for a place in the following season's Scottish Cup. Of course, non-SFA members can also qualify by winning the EOS League, so there are 2 routes.

  2  
South Challenge Cup ... all Lowland, EOSL and SOSL clubs - plus Glasgow Uni (as are SFA members). All-in with away travel subsidised. Final the day after the Scottish Cup Final and usually at an SPFL ground.

  3  
EOS Qualifying Cup ... most Lowland and all EOSL clubs. (Dalbeattie, Edusport and Threave enter the equivalent Southern Counties Cup - while BSCG, Cumbernauld and East Stirlingshire do not compete presumably to keep their ground rents down). All in. Final the Sunday of the international weekend in March. Both finalists enter the EOS Cup, with Berwick and Edinburgh City. Hearts and Hibs contest the EOS Shield. Livingston quit the EOSFA 10yrs ago and are members of no local FA... It actually has a very wide entry extending to East Kilbride, Gretna and Stirling University.

  4  
King Cup ... knockout tournament for all EOSL clubs including Stirling Uni EOS. All-in. Played in the spring - with the Final bringing the curtain down on the season (usually the last Saturday in May). Think the trophy was donated by the same man who donated the Junior Cup trophy, btw.

  5  
EOS League Cup... either a straight knockout tournament for all EOSL clubs including Stirling Uni EOS or for quite a number of years now for clubs qualifying from the EOS Qualifying League - which are basically League Cup sections at the start of the season. I don't think the format has ever been the same season-to-season as it's varied with the number of clubs, number of league games, etc. Similarly the dates vary wildly. Seeding used.


Fife Cup is run somewhat haphazardly by the Fife FA (currently Dunfermline, Raith, East Fife, Cowdebeath, Kelty and Burntisland) and under their own separate auspices... there was also the equivalent Stirlingshire Cup but it's been in abeyance for several years.

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