Oor Nicola Sturgeon thread.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

I thought we would have a feeding frenzy by the MSM over the weekend - but it was the exact opposite.

The usual headlines you would expect from the Heil and the Express on Saturday - but very little yesterday.

The calm before the storm?

Or was Thursday's "news" all they had?

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Glenn Campbell suggesting that Hamilton could be out today.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-56478884

[BFTD]

"The SNP is going bust" has been an interesting turn in the battle to find something, anything, to fight the popularity of independence with.

[doulikefish]

18 minutes ago, ThatBoyRonaldo said:

Pretty sure there is no such committee

He is just spouting stuff from wings 

[John Lambies Doos]

He is just spouting stuff from wings 

Best ignored then

[SandyCromarty]

26 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

I thought we would have a feeding frenzy by the MSM over the weekend - but it was the exact opposite.

The usual headlines you would expect from the Heil and the Express on Saturday - but very little yesterday.

The calm before the storm?

Or was Thursday's "news" all they had?
 

I think the tories have overplayed the ' Resign' scenario constantly and have come to realise that it could go against them, as the SNP will spin it as bullying.

Henry McLeish said much the same in an interview over the weekend in that the tories have shot themselves in the foot with the constant singular Sturgeon attacks instead of playing it alongside the pandemic and the economy.

Significant that the other parties have kept relatively quiet on Nicola and instead are concentrating on their campaign strategies.

[John Lambies Doos]

I think the tories have overplayed the ' Resign' scenario constantly and have come to realise that it could go against them, as the SNP will spin it as bullying.
Henry McLeish said much the same in an interview over the weekend in that the tories have shot themselves in the foot with the constant singular Sturgeon attacks instead of playing it alongside the pandemic and the economy.
Significant that the other parties have kept relatively quiet on Nicola and instead are concentrating on their campaign strategies.

Yup, it's actually ironic that Sarwar has kept pretty calm over the whole thing whilst socialist knight of the realm Starmer has emptied his sack..

[HTG]

1 minute ago, John Lambies Doos said:

30 minutes ago, SandyCromarty said:

I think the tories have overplayed the ' Resign' scenario constantly and have come to realise that it could go against them, as the SNP will spin it as bullying.
Henry McLeish said much the same in an interview over the weekend in that the tories have shot themselves in the foot with the constant singular Sturgeon attacks instead of playing it alongside the pandemic and the economy.
Significant that the other parties have kept relatively quiet on Nicola and instead are concentrating on their campaign strategies.

Yup, it's actually ironic that Sarwar has kept pretty calm over the whole thing whilst socialist knight of the realm Starmer has emptied his sack..

Ffs, nae need - I've only just finished my Alpen and it's on the way back now. 

[sparky88]

20 hours ago, paolo2143 said:

Nicola Sturgeon like all strong leaders didn't get where she is without being a shrewd and clever operator.

If you think of the likes of Thatcher, Blair, Salmond & even Boris Johnson they all knew how to read the voters most of the time and that is why they were successful.

Right now i believe Nicola will have been thinking of what strategy to adopt depending on outcome of James Hamilton report.

As long as she is not found to have broken the code knowingly/deliberately i suspect she is safe and that when it comes to voting a lot of the public who are YES voters will be stick by her & the party.

However she will also have been thinking of what to do in the event that James Hamilton finds against her.

I believe in those circumstances she will come out and declare she is going to resign. I also believe she is clever enough to portray this in a positive way. 

She could say while she still believes she acted in good faith she accepts James Hamilton's findings and unlike the Tories she takes the Ministerial code seriously and therefore will stand down. She could also say that even although she is resigning as FM, she will continue to try & protect Scotland from Covid until the elections are over and new FM in place.

The above serves a twofold purpose. It will weaken the Tory attacks on her being a liar & charlatan as she will have been seen to do the honorable thing unlike Ms Patel. Dominic Cummings or PM. this also makes Douglas Ross even more of a hypocrite if he continues to try and attack her character.

Secondly by  continuing to put Covid at top of her agenda even though she has resigned i suspect that will play well with Scottish public, a lot of whom are sympathetic to her situation even if they don't fully believe her.

I suspect she is giving this a lot of thought and it is the way i would go.

Hopefully it won't be needed as she will still be FM at when elections commence as she is light years ahead of any alternative FM right now.

I don't think she can be found guilty of knowingly misleading parliament because she says she can't remember conversations that weren't recorded anywhere else. It's pretty obviously going to be a fudge. 

[topcat(The most tip top)]

I think the tories have overplayed the ' Resign' scenario constantly and have come to realise that it could go against them, as the SNP will spin it as bullying.

It’s like watching a footballer winning a free kick but then dramatically rolling around holding their face

[Ned Nederlander]

2 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

Glenn Campbell suggesting that Hamilton could be out today.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-56478884
 

Which is obviously why the other inquiry was leaked.

[Whitburn Vale]

On 20/03/2021 at 22:48, Dawson Park Boy said:

Because if the vehicle for independence is shown as being corrupt, then people will go off the idea and support for the Union will increase.

The pursuit of independence is perfectly laudable but if the organisation  behind it is rotten then the idea will wither.

Seems simple to me.

Rule Britannia.

Ruling haw maw now ,we've been kicked out of every country we were ever in and rightly so 

[HalfCutNinja]

My take Sturgeon clearly did conspire to have Salmond jailed for the rest of his life on false charges. Which is shameful and disgusting.

She clearly has mislead parliament and the parliamentary inquiry as well. And something is very rotten at the top of the SNP.

But I don't give a f**k and can't wait to vote for them in May, as my country is much more important and if we're comparing levels of corruption WM and the UK are the number one on the planet.

[SandyCromarty]

3 minutes ago, Whitburn Vale said:

Ruling haw maw now ,we've been kicked out of every country we were ever in and rightly so 

Appreciate and fully understand what you are implying your but do you fancy a re-write changing the we's to they?

[SandyCromarty]

3 minutes ago, HalfCutNinja said:

My take Sturgeon clearly did conspire to have Salmond jailed for the rest of his life on false charges. Which is shameful and disgusting.

She clearly has mislead parliament and the parliamentary inquiry as well. And something is very rotten at the top of the SNP.

But I don't give a f**k and can't wait to vote for them in May, as my country is much more important and if we're comparing levels of corruption WM and the UK are the number one on the planet.

This is what the tories have miscalculated, that all the 'Resign' calls and votes of no confidence mean absolutely f**k all to the Scots that put their country and Independence to the fore and want to get rid of another country's politically corrupt parliament ruling our lives, enough is fuckin enough.

[HalfCutNinja]

Just now, SandyCromarty said:

This is what the tories have miscalculated, that all the 'Resign' calls and votes of no confidence mean absolutely f**k all to the Scots that put their country and Independence to the fore and want to get rid of another country's politically corrupt parliament ruling our lives, enough is fuckin enough.

I actually think it will backfire on them and they will be seen as bullies. The rise in SNP membership in the last couple of weeks is evidence of this.

Our biggest weapon in the fight for independence and the biggest reason we need it is they don't understand us at all, or even care to.

[NotThePars]

[SANTAN]

16 minutes ago, SandyCromarty said:

Appreciate and fully understand what you are implying your but do you fancy a re-write changing the we's to they?

You've already proven to have a less than accurate version of historical events please do not go down this predictable immoral route. 

[SandyCromarty]

2 minutes ago, HalfCutNinja said:

I actually think it will backfire on them and they will be seen as bullies. The rise in SNP membership in the last couple of weeks is evidence of this.

Our biggest weapon in the fight for independence and the biggest reason we need it is they don't understand us at all, or even care to.

If the Scottish Tories were an independent political  party free from doing as Westminster orders them to do then they might be taken seriously by Scottish voters instead of relying on farming and fishing rural votes, but as long as they have the westminster millstone around their necks and the Thatcher tag and now with Boris and Co they will remain also rans and their vote share will continue to diminish.

[SANTAN]

8 minutes ago, HalfCutNinja said:

I actually think it will backfire on them and they will be seen as bullies. The rise in SNP membership in the last couple of weeks is evidence of this.

Our biggest weapon in the fight for independence and the biggest reason we need it is they don't understand us at all, or even care to.

Do you have a link to this or do you have any figures off hand?