strichener Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: Oops, it was Banff apparently. He was actually based in Peterhead. I met him a few times back in the 90s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Thorongil said: I think Sturgeon was asked about it at the inquiry into her government’s handling of the inquiry into Salmond. I can’t recall exactly but again there was no denial. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, strichener said: He was actually based in Peterhead. I met him a few times back in the 90s. Aye, I'm not doing too well here, I blame whoever did his terrible Wiki page. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Just now, welshbairn said: According to his terrible wiki page he was also in Banff for a spell. The "Banff Buchan" office was the Banff and Buchan constituency which Salmond represented. The office was located at Maiden Street in Peterhead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, George Cowley said: To the best of my recollection. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 It turns out Keith Brown and Mike Russell were the good guys to the baddies Sturgeon, Murrell and Oswald. With Brown proposing governance changes in 2021 via a 41 page report. With none of the changes being implemented. Blocked by? You've guessed it, Sturgeon, Murrell & Oswald. www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/kirsten-oswald-peter-murrell-blocked-29660551.amp It's long past time to empty the stables. Over to you, Humza. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 He would have to start by emptying himself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 This’ll be the same Humza that took the DFM post off, erm…, Keith Brown? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 2 hours ago, virginton said: He would have to start by emptying himself. Well he was the continuity candidate... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 6 hours ago, George Cowley said: This’ll be the same Humza that took the DFM post off, erm…, Keith Brown? John Swinney was DFM. Keith Brown is Deputy Leader of the party, as elected by the membership in 2018. He was Justice Secretary before Humza came in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 I stand corrected! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Appreciating that nobody has been charged yet, but - A couple of years ago, most people (indeed many unionist commentators) grudgingly talked about Sturgeon as possibly the most competent and certainly the most trusted politician around. She was roundly lauded for her honesty during Covid etc etc. We are now in a position where - if all the revelations are true, her husband perpetrated a financial fraud, they both shut down any questions or inquiries on the subject - and it seems inconceivable that she was unaware of what was going on. What I struggle with is the notion that Sturgeon (who, regardless of your political persuasion, you cant deny came across as pretty smart) thought they could "get away" with this............ I have worked in places where people have been captured for fraud, and usually there is some underlying reason (gambling, relative with drug debts etc) and they are usually relieved to be caught. But this seems so utterly bizarre and incomprehensible - I mean, if she discovered he had his hands in the till just for greed, she could have called the polis and divorced the baldy auld man and come out of it (if not smelling of roses) with her reputation almost intact. Like I said, taking away any "Indy / Unionist" bias or "I fuckin telt ye so" shite - does anyone else find this case incredibly strange????? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 17 minutes ago, Leith Green said: What I struggle with is the notion that Sturgeon (who, regardless of your political persuasion, you cant deny came across as pretty smart) thought they could "get away" with this............ I have worked in places where people have been captured for fraud, and usually there is some underlying reason (gambling, relative with drug debts etc) and they are usually relieved to be caught. But this seems so utterly bizarre and incomprehensible - I mean, if she discovered he had his hands in the till just for greed, she could have called the polis and divorced the baldy auld man and come out of it (if not smelling of roses) with her reputation almost intact. Like I said, taking away any "Indy / Unionist" bias or "I fuckin telt ye so" shite - does anyone else find this case incredibly strange????? The thing that I can’t really understand is the great big grandstanding resignation press conference - I just couldn’t do it anymore, I knew at the funeral of an SNP stalwart that I’d have to quit, we need to be kinder in public life. She must have known this was all coming but did it anyway. Either she thought she could ride it out and nothing was going to come of the case or she just wanted her moment in the spotlight, the prose, the glowing comment pieces. Neither option is really flattering to her. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 13 minutes ago, Leith Green said: does anyone else find this case incredibly strange????? Yes, yes I do. There is no doubt about her debating and communication skills but something has gone seriously wrong and at the very least, that prompts me to start on a reappraisal of her leadership. Her defacto referendum announcement and the immediate kickback to it was puzzling and everything ever since is baffling. Are there any decent pieces of journalism that can help? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, ICTChris said: The thing that I can’t really understand is the great big grandstanding resignation press conference - I just couldn’t do it anymore, I knew at the funeral of an SNP stalwart that I’d have to quit, we need to be kinder in public life. She must have known this was all coming but did it anyway. Either she thought she could ride it out and nothing was going to come of the case or she just wanted her moment in the spotlight, the prose, the glowing comment pieces. Neither option is really flattering to her. Yep, and - again - it seems completely baffling that this would be done in the sure knowledge that her husband was "at it" and about to be huckled !! I cannae get my head round it, but the film is going to be fantastic...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotiaNostra Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Leith Green said: Appreciating that nobody has been charged yet, but - A couple of years ago, most people (indeed many unionist commentators) grudgingly talked about Sturgeon as possibly the most competent and certainly the most trusted politician around. She was roundly lauded for her honesty during Covid etc etc. We are now in a position where - if all the revelations are true, her husband perpetrated a financial fraud, they both shut down any questions or inquiries on the subject - and it seems inconceivable that she was unaware of what was going on. What I struggle with is the notion that Sturgeon (who, regardless of your political persuasion, you cant deny came across as pretty smart) thought they could "get away" with this............ I have worked in places where people have been captured for fraud, and usually there is some underlying reason (gambling, relative with drug debts etc) and they are usually relieved to be caught. But this seems so utterly bizarre and incomprehensible - I mean, if she discovered he had his hands in the till just for greed, she could have called the polis and divorced the baldy auld man and come out of it (if not smelling of roses) with her reputation almost intact. Like I said, taking away any "Indy / Unionist" bias or "I fuckin telt ye so" shite - does anyone else find this case incredibly strange????? Yeah it is difficult to fathom, the why? and at times I wonder how much there is to it still. However there are so many things now that that adding up look to be pointing to something dodgy that has happened and both were aware. An example, the answer to the question to NS about the Murrell loan where she clearly in advance what seems knowingly now distances herself from it, looks well dodgy, it looked dodgy at the time but now with hindsight it looks even more so. Its all bizarre and to some extent we will just have to wait and see what comes out of it. As im still not sure is it just incompetence that got out of hand or a sense of "we run this and we can do what we want" and nothing corrupt was intended but lines were clearly crossed and abuses of power done in regards control of the finances or something where intentional criminal financial activtives were done(which I still at this moment maybe naively think is the least likely option) Edited April 16, 2023 by ScotiaNostra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razamanaz Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Leith Green said: Appreciating that nobody has been charged yet, but - A couple of years ago, most people (indeed many unionist commentators) grudgingly talked about Sturgeon as possibly the most competent and certainly the most trusted politician around. She was roundly lauded for her honesty during Covid etc etc. We are now in a position where - if all the revelations are true, her husband perpetrated a financial fraud, they both shut down any questions or inquiries on the subject - and it seems inconceivable that she was unaware of what was going on. What I struggle with is the notion that Sturgeon (who, regardless of your political persuasion, you cant deny came across as pretty smart) thought they could "get away" with this............ I have worked in places where people have been captured for fraud, and usually there is some underlying reason (gambling, relative with drug debts etc) and they are usually relieved to be caught. But this seems so utterly bizarre and incomprehensible - I mean, if she discovered he had his hands in the till just for greed, she could have called the polis and divorced the baldy auld man and come out of it (if not smelling of roses) with her reputation almost intact. Like I said, taking away any "Indy / Unionist" bias or "I fuckin telt ye so" shite - does anyone else find this case incredibly strange????? No -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 6 hours ago, Leith Green said: Yep, and - again - it seems completely baffling that this would be done in the sure knowledge that her husband was "at it" and about to be huckled !! I cannae get my head round it, but the film is going to be fantastic...... Murrell to be played Stanley Tucci. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Former Presiding Officer of the Scottish Parliament here. Nice political culture we’ve built for ourselves in this country. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) 52 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: Murrell to be played Stanley Tucci. No chance. He weighs about 8st when soaking wet. My suggestion…? Spoiler Edited April 16, 2023 by George Cowley Meh, tried to hide in a spoiler on my phone. Didn’t work. Muppet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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