ulysses Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 https://t.co/LVGczqO3AL?amp=1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, ulysses said: https://t.co/LVGczqO3AL?amp=1 Are we buying our test kits from poundland, they don't seem to be very reliable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohemian Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, bennett said: Are we buying our test kits from poundland, they don't seem to be very reliable. Poundland, Isnt that where Sir Craig Whyte bought rangers 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 Club statement confirms that we are now reviewing the private testing process. Concerning thing is, this could happen to most other clubs in the SPFL. All clubs apart from Celtic and Ross County send these tests to the same facility in England. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Just now, djchapsticks said: Club statement confirms that we are now reviewing the private testing process. Concerning thing is, this could happen to most other clubs in the SPFL. All clubs apart from Celtic and Ross County send these tests to the same facility in England. I suppose it's possible that they could make an arse of their testing too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, FTOF said: I suppose it's possible that they could make an arse of their testing too. It definitely is but much like the Motherwell streaming shambles the other night causing a bit of concern over the ability to show these games to fans given we almost universally use the same platform, this batch of false positives should throw up a bit of league-wide scepticism over the facility being used to carry out these tests if all clubs are using them. Edited July 24, 2020 by djchapsticks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 minute ago, djchapsticks said: Club statement confirms that we are now reviewing the private testing process. Concerning thing is, this could happen to most other clubs in the SPFL. All clubs apart from Celtic and Ross County send these tests to the same facility in England. It's understandable that the process is prone to human error at some point. The whole thing - not just @ SMFC - is relying on non medical experts to carry out large batches of tests and, apparently, get them couriered to England. The good news is that we are erring on the side of caution and, as a club, clearly acted correctly in response to the (false) outbreak. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 The coming season will be littered with games being moved two days/a week/a month due to testing situations I reckon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Get the friendly back on! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, Kyle said: Get the friendly back on! Based on today's development, I literally see no reason why it can't be on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Doesn't one person still have a positive test? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Busta Nut said: Doesn't one person still have a positive test? Yeah. They've had no contact with the squad since last Saturday though and all other results came back negative on Wednesday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyM Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 35 minutes ago, Coventry Saint said: It's understandable that the process is prone to human error at some point. The whole thing - not just @ SMFC - is relying on non medical experts to carry out large batches of tests and, apparently, get them couriered to England. The good news is that we are erring on the side of caution and, as a club, clearly acted correctly in response to the (false) outbreak. Well yes, but that is a huge error. You can't run a testing system with that number of false positives (generously 6%, if 100 at the club were tested). A viable test system (from the sampling through the transport to the lab test itself) needs a false positive rate of much, much better than 1% . Otherwise it is a waste of time. Yesterday, Scotland reported 16,338 tests. This outfit could easily have reported close to 1,000 new positive cases with their level of accuracy/competency. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insaintee Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, AllyM said: Well yes, but that is a huge error. You can't run a testing system with that number of false positives (generously 6%, if 100 at the club were tested). A viable test system (from the sampling through the transport to the lab test itself) needs a false positive rate of much, much better than 1% . Otherwise it is a waste of time. Yesterday, Scotland reported 16,338 tests. This outfit could easily have reported close to 1,000 new positive cases with their level of accuracy/competency. It's most likely been cross contamination of samples 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyM Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Just now, Insaintee said: It's most likely been cross contamination of samples I agree - but that is just incompetence and/or lack of training. False positives are false positives wherever in the process the cause lies . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insaintee Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, AllyM said: I agree - but that is just incompetence and/or lack of training. False positives are false positives wherever in the process the cause lies . Do the club collect and send or does the lab come and take samples. If it's the club, then cross contimination would be due to insufficent training of staff. I have had similar thoughts about those home testing kits 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Insaintee said: Do the club collect and send or does the lab come and take samples. If it's the club, then cross contimination would be due to insufficent training of staff. I have had similar thoughts about those home testing kits Don't know what St Mirren do (obviously) but if it's anything like Motherwell we have the club doctor doing the testing. Some of the protocols we're following were covered in the first section of the weekly update the club have been putting up on Youtube. Edited July 24, 2020 by capt_oats 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 hour ago, djchapsticks said: All clubs apart from Celtic and Ross County send these tests to the same facility in England. Do you know why that is? St Johnstone bought a machine from South Korea for testing. Does that not produce results? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Radford said: Do you know why that is? St Johnstone bought a machine from South Korea for testing. Does that not produce results? No idea, a training issue perhaps? I've read it from a few different places that 10 out of 12 SPFL Premiership clubs were sending tests to the same facility for analysis. It could well be that it's not in fact 10 though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 If anyone was going to be clatty and disease ridden it would be the Paisley Buddies. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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