die hard doonhamer Posted Wednesday at 13:13 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:13 2 hours ago, glasgowlichtie23 said: The most mental thing to me is that they’re basing all these losses and numbers on the assumption that they finish SECOND this season??? That seems completely bonkers to me as they’re essentially accepting administration which will result in a 15 point deduction, and they’re not exactly flying at the moment so relegation could be on the cards 100%. Seems incredibly optimistic to me 2 hours ago, 1320Lichtie said: The amount between the positions in terms of prize money is nowhere near as much in L1 as it is in the Leagues above. It’ll be more money but a 2nd place finish compared to 7th or whatever is nothing too big in the grand scheme of things. Of course relegation is an entirely different thing though - I think… The difference in prize money last season between Hamilton in 2nd and Annan in 8th was about £45k or something like that. It’s a drop in the ocean in comparison to the numbers being talked about here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby1994 Posted Wednesday at 13:26 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:26 Crowdfunding sounds like a good idea but what happens when the money raised is spent? That’s just a very short term solution and delaying the inevitable imo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worktheshaft Posted Wednesday at 13:34 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:34 Should crowdfund euromillions tickets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Killington Posted Wednesday at 14:06 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:06 32 minutes ago, Worktheshaft said: Should crowdfund euromillions tickets. Congratulations, you've won £2.80. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Judge Posted Wednesday at 14:20 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:20 12 minutes ago, Buzz Killington said: Congratulations, you've won £2.80. He'll burst you....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanky Highlander Posted Wednesday at 14:26 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:26 2 hours ago, forkboy said: When Macgregor dies this is easily the sort of state County could find ourselves in, which is a big part of why I'm not being too triumphalist about this. Absolutely this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted Wednesday at 14:34 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:34 6 minutes ago, Lanky Highlander said: Absolutely this. I don't think it will lead to admin, you'll obviously be relegated and probably stay at your natural level of tier 2. Which is The Caley's natural level too, if we were managed of and off the park properly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Stagsby Posted Wednesday at 14:34 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:34 (edited) 3 hours ago, Pete the Jakey said: Stuff you wrote As with so many of my P&B posts, this has nothing of any relevance to current discussion, nor even any 'substance' in general... but I saw a post from your good self and it reminded me: As myself and @Rosscubed were chatting on our way home from the St Johnstone game the other week, we were discussing some P&B discussion or another, and I accidentally referred to you as "Jake the Pikey", which we both found to be mildly entertaining. That is all. #'montheIKEA Edited Wednesday at 14:35 by The Great Stagsby 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted Wednesday at 14:40 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:40 5 hours ago, mozam76 said: I see the point you're making, but you can't possibly label all those clubs as "mid-sized". In Scotland: Big-sized: Celtic, TFCFKA Rangers Mid-sized: other FT teams Wee-sized: the rest 4 hours ago, Stephen Malkmus said: Great stuff. "2) any innovative ideas for raising substantial funding, that might have been overlooked by us as a Board, can be e mailed to us at panos.thomas@ictfc.co.uk" I can guarantee them £200,000, but I'll need a grand to get started. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrfix Posted Wednesday at 14:49 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:49 Please correct me if I'm wrong, but if you do go into Administration does the season ticket holders not just become creditors? In essence you will need to pay again to get in? If this is the case why would you buy a season ticket? I wish you all the best, a horrid situation. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Macleod Posted Wednesday at 14:49 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:49 1 hour ago, Spyro said: Any other CEO of a normal company would be facing a court hearing to explain their actions by now, especially given Gardiner's previous track record I'm fairly certain Savage is working on that especially now Gardiner is demanding over £100k. One of the reasons administration will be considered is cause Savage won't want to pay that c**t a penny & rightfully so. It was bad enough when he was demanding £60k now he's wanting double that. Absolute grifter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Jakey Posted Wednesday at 14:54 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:54 16 minutes ago, The Great Stagsby said: As with so many of my P&B posts, this has nothing of any relevance to current discussion, nor even any 'substance' in general... but I saw a post from your good self and it reminded me: As myself and @Rosscubed were chatting on our way home from the St Johnstone game the other week, we were discussing some P&B discussion or another, and I accidentally referred to you as "Jake the Pikey", which we both found to be mildly entertaining. That is all. #'montheIKEA I'll take that, I dont know if there is a mechanism for changing user names, if there is I will do it. Completely unrelated my elderly mother offered me a cake the other day, I accepted and asked where it was from. She said "The Sinful Bakers or something". It was from Bad Girl Bakery. Oh how I laughed. #ifyoubuildtheikeatheywillcome 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Macleod Posted Wednesday at 15:07 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:07 Just now, Ayrfix said: Please correct me if I'm wrong, but if you do go into Administration does the season ticket holders not just become creditors? In essence you will need to pay again to get in? If this is the case why would you buy a season ticket? I wish you all the best, a horrid situation. This is why some fans including myself didn't buy season tickets cause there was always the possibility that we could be putting all that money down a drain. I just bought tickets on matchday. No way was I wasting a few hundred on inflated administration fees. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Blue Posted Wednesday at 15:12 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:12 29 minutes ago, TheScarf said: I don't think it will lead to admin, you'll obviously be relegated and probably stay at your natural level of tier 2. Which is The Caley's natural level too, if we were managed of and off the park properly. Going off at a tangent a bit here, but ... a lot of the administration problems up here can be in part related to "mid-sized" clubs attempting to reach (and stay) in the "promised land" of the top league, both of which requires significant funding which in turn encourages club owners/directors to stretch the financial risk profiles beyond what would normally be thought of as acceptable. To me, this is in large part driven by the small leagues we have - a larger 18 team top flight makes the top tier relatively achievable for clubs like these, with lower financial risks. Of course this was all driven by greed and the desire to corrale the OF related gate/TV receipts for the few and to hell with the rest. The restructuring of our leagues has a lot to answer for, and smaller clubs continue to pay the price. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardle is Magic Posted Wednesday at 15:41 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:41 2 hours ago, Bobby1994 said: Crowdfunding sounds like a good idea It's not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted Wednesday at 15:56 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:56 14 minutes ago, Cardle is Magic said: It's not. Worked for Dunfermline, didn’t it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALEDONIAN108 Posted Wednesday at 16:06 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:06 6 hours ago, SandyCromarty said: At the start of the the 96/97 season while in the old Division 2 most of the team went full time, things were obviously different then but most who went full time gave up their day jobs, like I say there was a very different feel to the club then of optimism and a hunger for success unlike the despondency cloud that surrounds us now but if we manage to put the financial woes down and we bring in players as mentioned above the way we were could return. A glass half full rather than the obvious. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardle is Magic Posted Wednesday at 16:20 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:20 21 minutes ago, MazzyStar said: Worked for Dunfermline, didn’t it? Getting people to pay around £20 monthly helped a lot. We also had a larger fan base that could support fundraising efforts. I may be wrong but Caley seem even more f**ked than we were. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted Wednesday at 17:08 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:08 If you need Lord Woolman on loan, let us know. But seriously I hope you pull through. It's shyte seeing another Scottish club struggling so badly while the financial disparity gets bigger all the time from the top. Scottish football needs to revamp it's cash distribution completely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post invergowrie arab Posted Wednesday at 17:08 Popular Post Share Posted Wednesday at 17:08 9 hours ago, SandyCromarty said: Reports of our death have been greatly exaggerated. Never trust local print media who obviously made an arse of a non story. Havent read the rest of the posts yet but I'm glad to hear this and I send my warmest congratulations to you and the wider ICT family on the good news coming out of the club today. 33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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