happyaccie Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 18 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said: Och, journalists aren't professionals. Agreed , but ST could have handled this situation a lot better than appears to be the case, when he had the apparent meeting with McKinnon after the game on Saturday he should have relieved him of his duties immediately and had his severance payment in hand, for this to be dragged on makes Dundee United FC look a very amateurishly run club, for a club who had almost a decade of excellence spanning the 80s-90s it is a shadow of that time and appears to be in complete disarray . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 8 minutes ago, happyaccie said: Agreed , but ST could have handled this situation a lot better than appears to be the case, when he had the apparent meeting with McKinnon after the game on Saturday he should have relieved him of his duties immediately and had his severance payment in hand, for this to be dragged on makes Dundee United FC look a very amateurishly run club, for a club who had almost a decade of excellence spanning the 80s-90s it is a shadow of that time and appears to be in complete disarray . Sorry but that's just bollocks. You're talking about a guy with a very healthy salary and 20 odd months on his contract to run. You don't just say here's a cheque, don't let the door hit your arse on the way out. Both sides need to be sure that they protect their position before United agree to pay anything and McKinnon agrees to sign away any potential claims. There's a process for that which requires both sides to go through their lawyers. That's what they're doing and it's simply good business practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Whats taking so long. Are they having to resort to paper scissor stones to see who keeps Paul mcMullan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 48 minutes ago, happyaccie said: Unprofessional on the part of journalists to be speculating on replacements before official confirmation of his departure. So sports journalists shouldn't speculate on who the replacement might be when a manager is obviously about to be sacked? His sacking is news and reporting it is their job: it would be unprofessional if they didn't speculate on his replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 27 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said: Sorry but that's just bollocks. You're talking about a guy with a very healthy salary and 20 odd months on his contract to run. You don't just say here's a cheque, don't let the door hit your arse on the way out. Both sides need to be sure that they protect their position before United agree to pay anything and McKinnon agrees to sign away any potential claims. There's a process for that which requires both sides to go through their lawyers. That's what they're doing and it's simply good business practice. This is the only sacking I know of where the sacked person 3 days later is still employed ffs , I never suggested ST should just say here's a cheque and don't let the door hit your arse on the way out , I said he should have had the situation in hand , but my main gripe is the lack of dialogue from the club , what is the secrecy going to achieve except hilarity being directed towards your club.S.Thompson has taken the club backwards since taking over as chairman , and his handling of this matter is in my opinion unprofessional , to avoid this happening he should have ( and I despise this term - placed McKinnon on gardening leave which would have given a little clarity until the compensation package was agreed between the parties involved) but the lack of dialogue has just created a level of confusion . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 11 minutes ago, happyaccie said: This is the only sacking I know of where the sacked person 3 days later is still employed ffs Suggest you check the previous United manager change then. They did this then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 22 minutes ago, happyaccie said: This is the only sacking I know of where the sacked person 3 days later is still employed ffs , I never suggested ST should just say here's a cheque and don't let the door hit your arse on the way out , I said he should have had the situation in hand , but my main gripe is the lack of dialogue from the club , what is the secrecy going to achieve except hilarity being directed towards your club.S.Thompson has taken the club backwards since taking over as chairman , and his handling of this matter is in my opinion unprofessional , to avoid this happening he should have ( and I despise this term - placed McKinnon on gardening leave which would have given a little clarity until the compensation package was agreed between the parties involved) but the lack of dialogue has just created a level of confusion . Whilst I accept that this is an open forum and you are entitled to post what you want, as a United fan I couldn't give a flying f**k about your opinion as to how our club is run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 39 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said: So sports journalists shouldn't speculate on who the replacement might be when a manager is obviously about to be sacked? His sacking is news and reporting it is their job: it would be unprofessional if they didn't speculate on his replacement. So your accepting it is ok for a club to inform journalists that a manager has been sacked before officially relaying this to their fans ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundeeunited83 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Confirmed he’s away on official now! Good luck ray thanks for ahin, time to move! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 8 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Whilst I accept that this is an open forum and you are entitled to post what you want, as a United fan I couldn't give a flying f**k about your opinion as to how our club is run. I held Dundee Utd in very high regard when wee Jim was you're manager, I now regard them as a laughing stock not quite at sevco level but speeding towards it with each passing day ,down to the excuse of a chairman you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wet Wullie Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I hope they have a plan in place. No need to get someone in for Saturday.Advertise the gig, Sit tight, and see what transpires. Or. . . Just give it to John Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 30 minutes ago, dundeeunited83 said: Confirmed he’s away on official now! Good luck ray thanks for ahin, time to move! Feel comfortable now that McKinnons officially gone to say it looks like Yogi from the bulk of speculation I have read , good luck Utd you will darn well need it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 30 minutes ago, dundeeunited83 said: Confirmed he’s away on official now! Good luck ray thanks for ahin, time to move! Feel comfortable now that McKinnons officially gone to say it looks like Yogi from the bulk of speculation I have read , good luck Utd you will darn well need it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, happyaccie said: Feel comfortable now that McKinnons officially gone to say it looks like Yogi from the bulk of speculation I have read , good luck Utd you will darn well need it . I'm sure the United players will 'step up to the plate' and take the club to the 'next level'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 1 hour ago, happyaccie said: This is the only sacking I know of where the sacked person 3 days later is still employed ffs , I never suggested ST should just say here's a cheque and don't let the door hit your arse on the way out , I said he should have had the situation in hand , but my main gripe is the lack of dialogue from the club , what is the secrecy going to achieve except hilarity being directed towards your club.S.Thompson has taken the club backwards since taking over as chairman , and his handling of this matter is in my opinion unprofessional , to avoid this happening he should have ( and I despise this term - placed McKinnon on gardening leave which would have given a little clarity until the compensation package was agreed between the parties involved) but the lack of dialogue has just created a level of confusion . Happens, literally, all the time. The fact that you've never comes across it before is neither here nor there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Wet Wullie said: I hope they have a plan in place. No need to get someone in for Saturday.Advertise the gig, Sit tight, and see what transpires. Or. . . Just give it to John Hughes. I think John Hughes would be a good appointment for Dundee United. I wouldn't want him anywhere near my team if we were scrapping to avoid relegation, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 9 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said: Happens, literally, all the time. The fact that you've never comes across it before is neither here nor there. I have sacked many people and believe me they were dismissed on the spot not 3 days later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, happyaccie said: I have sacked many people and believe me they were dismissed on the spot not 3 days later. Well done you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, happyaccie said: I have sacked many people and believe me they were dismissed on the spot not 3 days later. Did you also set up a failed technology firm called Amstrad in the 1960s and swan about as if you're a great captain of industry today? You seem familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 24 minutes ago, virginton said: Did you also set up a failed technology firm called Amstrad in the 1960s and swan about as if you're a great captain of industry today? You seem familiar. Or indeed run for President of the USA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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