Bishop Briggs Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, JagsCG said: Lindsay is undoubtedly twice the play Jack Hendry is, but if he isn't playing regularly at club level he won't be in the National Team squad. Lindsay did not get near the national squad when he was playing regularly for Barnsley in the Championship. If he'd played for either of the Ugly Sisters (especially the green one) at youth or reserve level, he would have walked into the squad. Edited July 26, 2020 by Bishop Briggs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Being better than Bates and Hendry doesn't really mean much, both of them are miles off it as well and always have been, despite the protestations of the Abroad League fanatics who seemed to think an injury ravaged Bundesliga 2 Hamburg were still conquering Europe with Kevin Keegan up front. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 3 hours ago, craigkillie said: If lower end of the Championship was his level he wouldn't be fourth or fifth choice for a team at exactly that level. Yeah but they're not that level team, they're just there in the table temporarily. Their resources and quality of squad are top end Championship, and Lindsay has already shown he is comfortable bottom half Championship, that's his level. He's a bit better than League One. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagsCG Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 25 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: Lindsay did not get near the national squad when he was playing regularly for Barnsley in the Championship. If he'd played for either of the Ugly Sisters (especially the green one) at youth or reserve level, he would have walked into the squad. I don't disagree, but in terms of the present, he's not going to get in the squad whilst he's sitting on the bench in the Championship. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewan14 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Get this chap Jack Elliot called up. It is 2020 we do not want A Joe Baker situation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Joe Baker spent his early 20s playing for Torino and Arsenal, Jack Elliott spent his playing for South Florida Surf and Bethlehem Steel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Souttar injured again. Dashes any chance of him being a squad consideration for a good while at least, as if playing in the Championship shouldn’t have already. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB_Bino Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Souttar injured again. Dashes any chance of him being a squad consideration for a good while at least, as if playing in the Championship shouldn’t have already.A bit like Andy Webster, he’s in danger of never quite making it as a top Defender due to injury. Let’s hope not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenockraver Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 30 minutes ago, BB_Bino said: A bit like Andy Webster, he’s in danger of never quite making it as a top Defender due to injury. Let’s hope not. john kennedy too. nae luck at times 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Paige-Black Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 There can't be many nations with no decent Centre halfs or Right backs. You can through a blanket over all names suggested on here. None of them are (top 25 in the world quality). -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 A bit like Andy Webster, he’s in danger of never quite making it as a top Defender due to injury. Let’s hope not.Not sure he was ever going to develop into a “top” defender but if it wasn’t for his injuries he wouldn’t still be kicking about Hearts, that’s for sure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewan14 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 On 21/08/2020 at 22:42, craigkillie said: Joe Baker spent his early 20s playing for Torino and Arsenal, Jack Elliott spent his playing for South Florida Surf and Bethlehem Steel. U.S. football has improved since the early sixties -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) Souttar showed more ability than Mckenna (not a massive endorsement but seemed more comfortable ) for me tbh, shame for him. Edited August 22, 2020 by gannonball 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scumjob Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 I've said it before but we've an absolute cluster of centre backs all in a similar bracket ranging from bombscare to bang average at best. McKenna, Hanley, Souttar, Cooper, Lindsay, Devlin, Gallagher, Bates, Findlay, Mulgrew, Porteous, Kerr and so on are all on that scale somewhere. Our best bet is just picking two and sticking with them in the hope they build a partnership, which two I'm not that fussed though picking a couple at the bang average at best end of the scale would be preferable to the known bombscares. Alternatives would be the unknown quantities, if Caulker is interested then he's worth a go, he's got good pedigree and can't be too much worse. Last option could be trying McTominay there, he has the height and one of United's youth coaches rated him in the position. He could offer a genuine ball playing option and is a far better footballer than the other options. Not normally an advocate of moving a player out of position like that but when the alternative is Grant Hanley then why not. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewan14 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 41 minutes ago, Scumjob said: I've said it before but we've an absolute cluster of centre backs all in a similar bracket ranging from bombscare to bang average at best. McKenna, Hanley, Souttar, Cooper, Lindsay, Devlin, Gallagher, Bates, Findlay, Mulgrew, Porteous, Kerr and so on are all on that scale somewhere. Our best bet is just picking two and sticking with them in the hope they build a partnership, which two I'm not that fussed though picking a couple at the bang average at best end of the scale would be preferable to the known bombscares. Alternatives would be the unknown quantities, if Caulker is interested then he's worth a go, he's got good pedigree and can't be too much worse. Last option could be trying McTominay there, he has the height and one of United's youth coaches rated him in the position. He could offer a genuine ball playing option and is a far better footballer than the other options. Not normally an advocate of moving a player out of position like that but when the alternative is Grant Hanley then why not. You forgot Kieran at left centre back 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 By what metric is Caulker a better player than Leeds captain Liam Cooper? -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scumjob Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: By what metric is Caulker a better player than Leeds captain Liam Cooper? Cooper looked alright in the Championship. I fear for him a bit in the English Premier league as I don't think he's good enough to step up. Would love to be proven wrong mind. Caulker had a good long spell as a decent quality Premier League centre back. He's not at that level now but he's got more higher level experience than any of our other options and if he can find anything like his best form then we should be considering him. He's got a physical presence without being lumbering as well. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 29 minutes ago, Scumjob said: Cooper looked alright in the Championship. I fear for him a bit in the English Premier league as I don't think he's good enough to step up. Would love to be proven wrong mind. Caulker had a good long spell as a decent quality Premier League centre back. He's not at that level now but he's got more higher level experience than any of our other options and if he can find anything like his best form then we should be considering him. He's got a physical presence without being lumbering as well. Thankfully we're playing Israel 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-r-cfc Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Surprised to see Caulker is only 28. Had it in my head that he had been around forever and was into his 30s. Surely if he were interested in turning out for us, he would have been called up by now? People have been discussing this for a good few years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 (edited) Caulker was last spotted on these shores getting chucked around the park by Chris Kane FFS, in a Dundee side battling relegation. This is apparently fine though, because his "head wasn't right". Edited August 23, 2020 by RandomGuy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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