A Photographic History Of Scottish Football

[Monkey Tennis]

2 hours ago, Flybhoy said:

Kenny Burns, or Kenneth as his Nottingham Forest manager, the late great Brian Clough referred to him

When Clough signed him for Forest from Birmingham, he arranged to meet him at a Sweetpea Show at a Garden Centre.

[Andy_K_97]

3 hours ago, Flybhoy said:

Kenny Burns, or Kenneth as his Nottingham Forest manager, the late great Brian Clough referred to him, up for a corner against Peru in 1978 on a night Ally McLeod, Alan Rough and virtually all of Scotland would rather forget on what in hindsight wasn't even the low point of that World Cup for Scotland.

Remember watching an interview with Alan Rough about that World Cup and it's staggering how unprofessional Scotland were going into that tournament, particularly from the manager it has to be said who did absolutely zero homework or analysis on our opponents, Rough asked if they had anyone decent on set pieces and McLeod shrugged his shoulders in a 'haven't a clue' type response, Laughable and embarrassing in equal measure. 

Absolutely wild stuff, even for the 70s. To think that one of the red tops (the Daily Record, I believe) offered Ally an all expenses paid trip to Peru to size up our World Cup opponents and he turned their very generous offer down. 

Still, that Peru kit is a thing of simplistic beauty. One of the most iconic kit designs there's been in international football, and yet the mere sight of it is enough to sicken Scots who remember this debacle.

Edited August 28, 2023 by Andy_K_97

[Monkey Tennis]

15 minutes ago, Andy_K_97 said:

 

Still, that Peru kit is a thing of simplistic beauty. One of the most iconic kit designs there's been in international football, and yet the mere sight of it is enough to sicken Scots who remember this debacle.

A wonderful kit.

Despite the trauma it brought back, I bought the Subbuteo Peru team soon after that game. 

That was quite a damaging day.  First Holy Communion in the morning, followed by that match in the evening.  I've not really recovered from either.

[Eednud]

Courtesy of the great Arbroath Archive https://www.arbroatharchive.co.uk/matchdetails.php?id=6025 on this day (29 Aug) in 1964 Arbroath drew 2-2 with Queen’s Park in a League Cup Section 7 match at Gayfield in front of 1,453. The photograph names the Arbroath player as Ian Brown but the match details list him as John Brown who also played for Berwick Rangers. This was his second goal for Arbroath and he scored his 3rd and final goal for them later in the game. He only made 6 appearances, although 1 was in the Forfarshire Cup.

Clyde won the group W 4 D 2 L 0 F 17 A 4 Pts 10; Arbroath W 2 D 2 L 2 F 11 A 10 Pts 6; Albion Rovers W 2 D 0 L 4 F 7 A 15 Pts 4; Queen’s Park W 1 D 2 L 3 F 5 A 11 Pts 4. Goal average determined placing back and at the end of that season it made Kilmarnock fans very happy.

Edited August 29, 2023 by Eednud

[kingjoey]

5 minutes ago, Eednud said:

Courtesy of the great Arbroath Archive https://www.arbroatharchive.co.uk/matchdetails.php?id=6025 on this day (29 Aug) in 1964 Arbroath drew 2-2 with Queen’s Park in a League Cup Group Stage match at Gayfield in front of 1,453. The photograph names the Arbroath player as Ian Brown but the match details list him as John Brown who also played for Berwick Rangers. This was his second goal for Arbroath and he scored his 3rd and final goal for them later in the game. He only made 6 appearances, although 1 was in the Forfarshire Cup.

The goalkeeper in the photo is Bobby Clark, soon to move to Aberdeen. 

Got in before you JG.

Edited August 29, 2023 by kingjoey

[HibeeJibee]

1927:

[Flybhoy]

Aberdeen celebration after winning the league in 1985, the last club outwith Glasgow to do so  

[Flybhoy]

Scotland line up to face Brazil on a soaking wet night in Turin at Italia 90, a night Jim Leighton would rather forget and one Murdo McCleod probably can't remember. 

A few weeks after being dropped for the FA cup final replay this was the beginning of a dark period for Leighton, he's never spoken to Ferguson since who, I'm sure most observers, me included he made the right call, even if it was going to destroy the confidence of a guy who had been such a big part of his Aberdeen trophy success.

[oldbitterandgrumpy]

On 28/08/2023 at 23:17, Monkey Tennis said:

A wonderful kit.

Despite the trauma it brought back, I bought the Subbuteo Peru team soon after that game. 

That was quite a damaging day.  First Holy Communion in the morning, followed by that match in the evening.  I've not really recovered from either.

I know I’ve said it before, but it still holds true. It’s too soon to talk about Argentina 78. 

[O_Kahn]

On 28/08/2023 at 19:58, Flybhoy said:

Kenny Burns, or Kenneth as his Nottingham Forest manager, the late great Brian Clough referred to him, up for a corner against Peru in 1978 on a night Ally McLeod, Alan Rough and virtually all of Scotland would rather forget on what in hindsight wasn't even the low point of that World Cup for Scotland.

Remember watching an interview with Alan Rough about that World Cup and it's staggering how unprofessional Scotland were going into that tournament, particularly from the manager it has to be said who did absolutely zero homework or analysis on our opponents, Rough asked if they had anyone decent on set pieces and McLeod shrugged his shoulders in a 'haven't a clue' type response, Laughable and embarrassing in equal measure. 

Clough wasn’t exactly keen on signing Burns at first:

 

”Clough and his trusty assistant, Peter Taylor, had just paid £150,000 for Kenny Burns, a 20-goal-a-season centre-forward from Birmingham, with the intention of playing him as a central defender. When Taylor first suggested the signing Clough was adamant: "Forget it. I don't want troublemakers, I don't want shithouses and I don't want an ugly sod like Kenny Burns littering up my club. I don't buy thugs." But Taylor could be persuasive.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2007/aug/07/sport.comment

 

 

[Bogbrush1903]

On 28/08/2023 at 23:17, Monkey Tennis said:

A wonderful kit.

Despite the trauma it brought back, I bought the Subbuteo Peru team soon after that game. 

That was quite a damaging day.  First Holy Communion in the morning, followed by that match in the evening.  I've not really recovered from either.

I had the attached Peru team from circa 1983/1984ish, but can't remember the purchase.

The Rubber Shop on George Street, Aberdeen downstairs was heaven for the Subbuteo team collector. IIRC the teams were behind the counter with the white sticky labels identifying the box contents facing the customer.

[Bogbrush1903]

In the week of a disappointing Europa League exit for the Dons at the hands of Swedish opposition, here's the previous Swedish heartache from March 1986.

This time it was the 1985/86 European Cup Quarter Finals with the picture showing Willie Miller levelling up at 1-1. Hewitt would put us in the lead before Johnny Ekstrom scored in the last minute for an away goal that would prove crucial. A return to the 1983 triumph at the Ullevi Stadium would end in disappointment with a 0-0 draw.

Incidentally, you can see Miller's black armband (along with IFK defender Peter Larsson and goalie Thomas Wernersson)with the players wearing them as a mark of respect for the assassainated Swedish Prime Minister Olof Palme who was gunned down on a Stockholm street the previous Friday.

For those that like a bit of mystery, Palme's death is akin to JFK's assassination in Sweden for conspiracy theories. The official version recently concluded that the perputator was an insurance salesman who was working late and saw Palme, who eschewed personal security despite being seen as a World Leader, on the way to the cinema with his wife. Palme was murdered after leaving the cinema.

*IFK would blow a 3-0 first leg win against Barcelona in the semi-finals and crash out on pens, who in turn would blow Spanish home soil advantage against a Ceaușescu favoured Steaua Bucharest.

It was the first season of the English teams ban after Heysel and would present Fergie's best chance to win ol' big ears with Aberdeen and he would have to wait a further 13 years to lift it with Manchester United.

 

Edited September 1, 2023 by Bogbrush1903

[Flybhoy]

Slightly off topic but I recently watched the mini series about the Olaf Palme assassination on SKY,  a fervent socialist and vehement opponent critic of the apartheid regime in South Africa at the time,I strongly suspect it was the latter that was behind his killing. 

Much like the JFK assassination I suspect, in our lifetime at least we will never find out the truth. 

[Bogbrush1903]

10 minutes ago, Flybhoy said:

Slightly off topic but I recently watched the mini series about the Olaf Palme assassination on SKY,  a fervent socialist and vehement opponent critic of the apartheid regime in South Africa at the time,I strongly suspect it was the latter that was behind his killing. 

Much like the JFK assassination I suspect, in our lifetime at least we will never find out the truth. 

I was in Stockholm in 2015 and decided to follow in Palme's final footsteps and then follow the route the assassain took away from the crime scene (instead of going to an AIK match).

Skandia man was at the scene after the murder. He could've went up Tunnelgarten went right round the block and came back again.

However, it seemed that certain right-wing leaning policemen were acting suspiciously themselves that night and there was no attempt to preserve the crime scene.

I wasn't convinced by the BOSS or the PKK theories.

Anyway, back on topic, here's Gordon Strachan enjoying a glass of milk (is that a masonic ring on his pinky?)...

Edited September 1, 2023 by Bogbrush1903

[Caledonian1]

On 29/08/2023 at 04:55, kingjoey said:

The goalkeeper in the photo is Bobby Clark, soon to move to Aberdeen. 

Got in before you JG.

I met Bobby Clark last Saturday....we were looking for a ball on Moray Old and he helped look.......I just asked him...."are you Bobby Clark"  I did hear that he now lived in Lossie.  A very nice man.  I told him that a few minutes earlier we were talking about the 150 year anniversary game v England and I said I could remember the centenary game - what a coincidence meeting the goalie from that game a few minutes later. Got speaking to him again a wee bit later as he headed home from his walk (he was adamant that the 1973 game should never have been played as the Hampden pitch was frozen solid...and so it seems from the photo below)

[kingjoey]

31 minutes ago, Caledonian1 said:

I met Bobby Clark last Saturday....we were looking for a ball on Moray Old and he helped look.......I just asked him...."are you Bobby Clark"  I did hear that he now lived in Lossie.  A very nice man.  I told him that a few minutes earlier we were talking about the 150 year anniversary game v England and I said I could remember the centenary game - what a coincidence meeting the goalie from that game a few minutes later. Got speaking to him again a wee bit later as he headed home from his walk (he was adamant that the 1973 game should never have been played as the Hampden pitch was frozen solid...and so it seems from the photo below)

Great story. He is spot on about the pitch. Because it had been fitted into that midweek and it was the centenary match, it couldn't be called off. 

[HibeeJibee]

2 hours ago, Caledonian1 said:

I met Bobby Clark last Saturday....we were looking for a ball on Moray Old and he helped look.......I just asked him...."are you Bobby Clark"  I did hear that he now lived in Lossie.  A very nice man.  I told him that a few minutes earlier we were talking about the 150 year anniversary game v England and I said I could remember the centenary game - what a coincidence meeting the goalie from that game a few minutes later. Got speaking to him again a wee bit later as he headed home from his walk (he was adamant that the 1973 game should never have been played as the Hampden pitch was frozen solid...and so it seems from the photo below)

 

1 hour ago, kingjoey said:

Great story. He is spot on about the pitch. Because it had been fitted into that midweek and it was the centenary match, it couldn't be called off. 

There was also an intermediate (U23) international at Killie previous night... Scotland 1-2 England.

We think heavy schedules are a modern phenomenon but in 1972-73 just these midweeks were free:

Wed 20th Dec
Wed 3rd Jan          selected for Common Market Match (The Three v The Six)
Wed 10th Jan
Wed 31st Jan
Wed 14th Feb      selected for Scotland v England centenary friendly

Edited September 1, 2023 by HibeeJibee

[DA Baracus]

11 hours ago, Flybhoy said:

Scotland line up to face Brazil on a soaking wet night in Turin at Italia 90, a night Jim Leighton would rather forget and one Murdo McCleod probably can't remember. 

A few weeks after being dropped for the FA cup final replay this was the beginning of a dark period for Leighton, he's never spoken to Ferguson since who, I'm sure most observers, me included he made the right call, even if it was going to destroy the confidence of a guy who had been such a big part of his Aberdeen trophy success.

McLeod has said he can't recall it! He had to be hospitalised later because of it and some Brazilians thought he had died.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/murdo-macleod-brancos-free-kick-hit-1095197

[Tom Boland]

On 21/08/2023 at 13:38, Jacksgranda said:

Willie Morgan looks suitably embarrassed.

All of them in those photies should, especially the Leeds guys. Cringeworthy!

Could be said such parodies are from a bygone age, but not quite - even today when a club appoints a new manager he signs a contract containing a clause that says he must be pictured holding a club scarf above his head.  

[Boghead ranter]