Dunning1874 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 12 hours ago, Left Back said: For the reasons I already stated. In the UK we also have the complication of our relationship with the US to consider. Again like it or not we still have to do business with them in the future and don’t want to alienate them. Our existing relationship with the US and Israel is what makes it more important to take a moral stand over one of them committing genocide, not something to be shrugged off by the very sensible grown adults who understand nuance and realpolitik unlike the stupid babies who think tens of thousands of civilians being deliberately slaughtered is bad. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 45 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Anas Sarwar "standing up to Starmer" like the spineless b*****d he is. Sarwar is a lapdog, he just does precisely what Sir Keith tells him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 There was an utterly pathetic Labour patsy on Newsnight last night. When pressed on why now he actually said it's because Israel are talking up a ground offensive in Rafa. At that point it was put to him that his stance and the reasoning made it look like the senseless slaughter of 30,000 Gazan residents was acceptable to them as he used the phrase "a step too far". Victoria Derbyshire was left visibly shaking her head in disbelief at him after he failed to backtrack from what was obviously a pre prepared party stance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 9 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: There was an utterly pathetic Labour patsy on Newsnight last night. When pressed on why now he actually said it's because Israel are talking up a ground offensive in Rafa. At that point it was put to him that his stance and the reasoning made it look like the senseless slaughter of 30,000 Gazan residents was acceptable to them as he used the phrase "a step too far". Victoria Derbyshire was left visibly shaking her head in disbelief at him after he failed to backtrack from what was obviously a pre prepared party stance. He looked slightly uncomfortable when delivering it But only slightly 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Palestinian consul to UK last night on c4 news, saying of course Labour should have backed snp wording C4 news Labour cheerleaders Murphy saying what does it matter as wouldn't be passed Palestinian pointing out of course it matters as the genocide of number of decades would never have been possible without tacit UK and US approval 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GHF-23 Posted February 22 Popular Post Share Posted February 22 (edited) Really can't get over the Labour party briefing that they threatened the speaker, realising that didn't make them look like big dick gigachads and actually quite bent, and then saying that parliament could not be allowed to hold a vote because their MPs were terrified of the consequences. Of course the moon howling political media influencers have immediately interpreted that as "our democracy is unsafe and at the whims of the dangerous Muslims". To be so cynical, to chuck a minority under the bus, to attempt to delegitamise protest and, lets be honest, mass politics as a whole, to make a mockery of those who do and have suffered from political violence. For what? I did the "well maybe they'll be slightly better and if that's as good as we can get" thing a few months back but these people are vile - awful, political knife fighters in the service of themselves and themselves alone. We do not matter to them and you are a fucking moron if you vote for them Edited February 22 by GHF-23 24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 It is not the job of the Speaker of the House of Commons to avoid potential embarrassment for the Labour Party. As a pal of mine put it last night... "That, ladies and gentlemen, is why you don't f#ck about with procedures." According to LBC, 50 MPs have now signed the motion calling for Hoyle's head. IMO he has to go. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 2 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said: It is not the job of the Speaker of the House of Commons to avoid potential embarrassment for the Labour Party. As a pal of mine put it last night... "That, ladies and gentlemen, is why you don't f#ck about with procedures." According to LBC, 50 MPs have now signed the motion calling for Hoyle's head. IMO he has to go. He's toast. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 14 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: He's toast. Interesting to see who would replace him. Would it be the Deputy Speaker to get through to the election or some other mug being dragged to the chair? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 2 speakers in a row now have abused their position The role is tarnished 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 8 minutes ago, Highlandmagar said: Interesting to see who would replace him. Would it be the Deputy Speaker to get through to the election or some other mug being dragged to the chair? She's murder, the ridiculous way she allowed that vote to proceed yesterday shows she isn't up to it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Just now, Billy Jean King said: She's murder, the ridiculous way she allowed that vote to proceed yesterday shows she isn't up to it. Indeed. She is hopeless. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUcal Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 59 minutes ago, GHF-23 said: Of course the moon howling political media influencers have immediately interpreted that as "our democracy is unsafe and at the whims of the dangerous Muslims". To be so cynical, to chuck a minority under the bus, to attempt to delegitamise protest and, lets be honest, mass politics as a whole, to make a mockery of those who do and have suffered from political violence. For what? Aye, this. It is utterly shameful. The kind of behaviour straight out of the UKIP /Farage playbook. A total embarrassment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 SNP now demanding a personal statement from Hoyle. SNP in bed with the Tories. Hmmm. Opportunism at its best. -8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betting competition Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 14 hours ago, doulikefish said: https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/61908 Quick count and its up to 57 MPs now with 22 SNP 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) Daniel Johnson MSP with probably the worst take ever. I could post similar tweets from other Labour politicians. They are just fucking vermin. Edited February 22 by DeeTillEhDeh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 36 minutes ago, Highlandmagar said: Interesting to see who would replace him. John Hughes until the end of the season. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 I think it's starting to dawn on a few Labour that yesterday wasn't as good a day for them as they thought. Starmer reached straight for the Boris Johnson playbook, and people have noticed. Paul Sweeny lying about a hateful mob kicking his door down on twitter last night was a particular low as well, but I think what's really getting to folk is the smugness. 30,000 people dead in a horrific ongoing genocide that they have backed, then ignored, then basically bullied and cheated their way to not having to vote on, and they are walking around with shit eating grins accusing everyone else of playing politics. This is just another bunch of Lee Andersons or Jonathan Gullis clones with different coloured ties. Pathetic. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Starmer showing he totally belongs in the Tory Party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 11 minutes ago, Highlandmagar said: Starmer showing he totally belongs in the Tory Party. That's the only reason he's 'electable' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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