lichtgilphead Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 5 hours ago, Detournement said: I'm just pointing out for the potential benefit of younger (and ignorant) posters that in 2007 everyone understood the SNP got all their budgets through via a backroom agreement with the Tories. Supply and Confidence was a poor choice of words but it's a fact that they had an informal arrangement which amounted to the same thing. Well, ignorant kiddies, here's why you should never believe creepy old uncle H_B until you've checked all the facts. At the Scottish Parliament election in 2007, the results were as follows: SNP 47 seats, Lab 46, Con 17, LibDems 16, Green 2, Independent 1. However, one of the Tories (Alex Fergusson) was elected as Presiding Officer, so they effectively had 16 MSP's As 65 votes are needed for a majority, the only 2-party coalition that could muster that number of votes would be SNP/Lab. As this didn't happen, the SNP always needed support (or abstention) from at least 2 other parties. 2008 budget - passed by 64 votes to 62 - SNP for, Lab against, Con for, LibDems against, Greens abstain, Ind for 2009 budget - passed by 123 votes to 2 - SNP for, Lab for, Con for, LibDems for, Greens against, Ind for 2010 budget passed by 66 votes to 45 - SNP for, Lab against, Con for, LibDem abstain, Green for, Ind for 2011 budget passed by 79 votes to 48 - SNP for, Lab against, Con for, LibDem for, Green against, Ind abstain To me, that looks like a minority government trying to win support for budgets on a year by year basis, with every party supporting at least one of the budgets that passed. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Telt and sent to his single bed withoot supper [emoji23][emoji23] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 And the reason why Labour were the least supportive party is because they spent the entire parliament on the verge of tears and seething that Scotland had seen through the self entitled tossers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 https://twitter.com/gsoh31/status/1082912918465843200 In the Times mostly behind a firewall. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ecc9bbb8-136d-11e9-8239-c0a124428b01 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Duncan Hothersall masterminding the stronghold of Edinburgh South again is it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 A Yougov poll paid for by Murdoch..... Yougov have admitted that they ask leading questions to influence poll results. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 28 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Duncan Hothersall masterminding the stronghold of Edinburgh South again is it The mere mention of Hothersall attracts me like a moth to a flame. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: So does the SNP throw all their resources into scalping Ian Murray for the craic or leave him to it and try to hold their slim majorities elsewhere? Demographically Edin South is well beyond the SNP. It really depends on the context and nature of the next election, but it's difficult to see the SNP engaging in another listless campaign like the last one. I think far from defending their slim majorities they'd always be looking to win back seats, particularly the central belt seats they lost. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Edinburgh South is a funny seat, Tory until 1987 then Labour in either a landslide or a narrow victory from the Lib Dems and more recently SNP. Murray's got quite a big majority atm. Always a strong Tory vote in local elections too. Plenty of no righters in Morningside tbf. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Ian Murray's the pure distillation of everything wrong with Scottish Labour. A Blairite era chancer who changes his affiliations with the wind. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 16 minutes in Lesley Laird who I learned today is the Shadow Scottish Secretary was interviewed by Gordon Brewer today and my body contorted with cringe for her. What indeed is the point of Labour? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 9 hours ago, sophia said: 16 minutes in Lesley Laird who I learned today is the Shadow Scottish Secretary was interviewed by Gordon Brewer today and my body contorted with cringe for her. What indeed is the point of Labour? Wasn't Dickie Leonard similarly clueless over the same issue? Labour are an utterly pointless rabble 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, jupe1407 said: Wasn't Dickie Leonard similarly clueless over the same issue? Labour are an utterly pointless rabble Dickie was ready to fight a general election.in the morning......then couldnt name the brexit policy because the manifesto had not been discussed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 11 hours ago, sophia said: 16 minutes in Lesley Laird who I learned today is the Shadow Scottish Secretary was interviewed by Gordon Brewer today and my body contorted with cringe for her. What indeed is the point of Labour? Since when did third parties have “shadow secretaries”? Don’t they just have “spokespeople”? Seems like either Labour or the BBC (or both) are still labouring under the delusion - or trying to create the illusion - that the branch office is the major reserve voice of Scotland. It’s not dead, just taking a wee break before resuming the reins. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 47 minutes ago, Antlion said: Since when did third parties have “shadow secretaries”? Don’t they just have “spokespeople”? Seems like either Labour or the BBC (or both) are still labouring under the delusion - or trying to create the illusion - that the branch office is the major reserve voice of Scotland. It’s not dead, just taking a wee break before resuming the reins. I'm afraid that we're tied into a system whereby Lesley Laird is part of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition. There are those amongst us that will see no cause to protest at such nonsense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 18 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: She's an MP, Labour are the opposition with shadow cabinet. Gotcha. Never heard of her, so I assumed she was part of the B-squad! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 So does the SNP throw all their resources into scalping Ian Murray for the craic or leave him to it and try to hold their slim majorities elsewhere?I used to live in the Edinburgh South constituency. We always voted SNP but to be fair to Murray, he’s s decent local MP and I think that’s why he does well. I don’t really see anyone dislodging him but it’s an area with the potential to go full Tory, so I always generally preferred him to the more likely alternative. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 16 hours ago, sophia said: 16 minutes in Lesley Laird who I learned today is the Shadow Scottish Secretary was interviewed by Gordon Brewer today and my body contorted with cringe for her. What indeed is the point of Labour? Maybe she should be accorded some credit for accepting and following her leader's instructions to the letter. What a car crash of an interview that was though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampden Diehard Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 16 minutes in Lesley Laird who I learned today is the Shadow Scottish Secretary was interviewed by Gordon Brewer today and my body contorted with cringe for her. What indeed is the point of Labour?I've never seen a poorer performance by a politician. It was like a scene from "The Thick of It".Labour's answer to any questions about Brexit is to ignore the question completely and demand a general election. Aye, because you lot are impressive.Opportunist p***ks, and their current crop seem to be devoid of anyone wuth charisma or , crucially, intelligence.Utterly clueless and useless. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I've never seen a poorer performance by a politician. It was like a scene from "The Thick of It".Labour's answer to any questions about Brexit is to ignore the question completely and demand a general election. Aye, because you lot are impressive.Opportunist p***ks, and their current crop seem to be devoid of anyone wuth charisma or , crucially, intelligence.Utterly clueless and useless.It must have been bad if it was worse than Richard Burgon, every time he gets interviewed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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