Sarcastic Bairn Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, DC92 said: Hutton's peak for us lasted from about September-November 2007 when he was genuinely brilliant. After that he was ok but not Hickey's current level. I only seem to remember him for falling over consistently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC92 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, Sarcastic Bairn said: I only seem to remember him for falling over consistently. Someone post the gif of him faceplanting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immcinto Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 So which pre-Clarke players since 2003 would displace the current first picks? You can take them at their peak. Gordon? Weir? Maybe Hutton? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabFC Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 3 hours ago, DC92 said: Hutton's peak for us lasted from about September-November 2007 when he was genuinely brilliant. After that he was ok but not Hickey's current level. Staggering how folk forget. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Huttons one of those weird ones where he was both better than a lot of people say, but also worse than some people say. He was a great bombarding full back for us who never done it consistently over his career. Probably sacrilege but while I think Hickey is a better footballer, I prefer the type of full back Hutton was and think that type would cause chaos in our current set up. Patterson looks like he could be that type, but even better, if he keeps progressing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotov Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, RandomGuy. said: Patterson looks like he could be that type, but even better, if he keeps progressing. What I’ve seen so far from Patterson hasn’t been that great. One of the poorest players in the EPL in his position. Admittedly he is playing in a poor Everton team but he’s not been a standout in any games. I watch a lot of Everton games and I’d love to see him progress but he has a long way to go. IMHO. Perhaps your graphs & stats will show otherwise. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH Panda Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Some of the posts in the first few pages of this thread merit some sort of psychological assessment. Imagine twisting things to convince yourself that the nation you support is / always has been rubbishn when that demonstrably isn't the case. Must take a certain kind of madness. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 8 hours ago, Molotov said: What I’ve seen so far from Patterson hasn’t been that great. One of the poorest players in the EPL in his position. Admittedly he is playing in a poor Everton team but he’s not been a standout in any games. I watch a lot of Everton games and I’d love to see him progress but he has a long way to go. IMHO. Perhaps your graphs & stats will show otherwise. Would have said the same about Robertson's time at Hull in the Barclays but it worked out to be a great education. Fairly sure he was in and out the team at the time and was considered not good enough defensively to begin with. Hopefully Patterson is just getting a similar education from Dycheball, maybe relegation to the Championship would work out well for him as well tbh . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Read this thread last night and found it quite interesting. Reasons given for Scotland never being good again: Xbox Public facilities being too expensive Coaching Being technically inferior to Lithuania Lack of poverty Not being middle class enough Jobs for the boys Lack of indoor facilities like Iceland Project Brave Playing on big pitches at a young age Celtic and Rangers signing all the best players Not capping young players early enough so they don't have enough caps Not completely disbanding the team to give youngsters a chance Armstrong, Tierney and Robertson not being technical enough It's good to see we've sorted all of that out in the space of 5 years tbh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Hutton was never that great defensively, but going forward he was unreal. Recency bias is clouding folk's judgement here as he was a shadow of himself in his latter caps. Before he broke his leg (again) at Spurs he was an unstoppable force in attack. The Italy game is cited often, but there were many times after that where he would make 50-70 yards from nothing. Injuries absolutely fucked him. He's a very different fullback to Hickey. Hickey is technical and a superb 1v1 defender, but I'd still take Hutton for the excitement factor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoo61 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 9 hours ago, immcinto said: So which pre-Clarke players since 2003 would displace the current first picks? You can take them at their peak. Gordon? Weir? Maybe Hutton? McFadden. Tough on who to drop I grant you but, at his peak, magical. Kenny Miller, we know that strikers is not our strong suit atm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, Stoo61 said: Kenny Miller, we know that strikers is not our strong suit atm. It wasn't our strong suit when we were fielding him either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immcinto Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 28 minutes ago, Stoo61 said: McFadden. Tough on who to drop I grant you but, at his peak, magical. Kenny Miller, we know that strikers is not our strong suit atm. McFadden was great for that level of team and lovely to watch, but he was never a Premier League standard player. Struggled at Everton. Kenny Miller , maybe -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Ferguson's Hat Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Phil Bardsley was a revelation when he was first called up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, immcinto said: So which pre-Clarke players since 2003 would displace the current first picks? You can take them at their peak. Gordon? Weir? Maybe Hutton? Darren Fletcher is the obvious shout, at his 2008-10 pre-injury peak there are very few teams in Europe he wouldn't be a starter for. Edited October 17, 2023 by Dunning1874 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Twelve Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Dunning1874 said: Darren Fletcher is the obvious shout, at his 2008-10 pre-injury peak there are very few teams in Europe he wouldn't be a starter for. I'd agree with this. I'm surprised at the lack of love he's getting here - a magnificent player before his illness got the better of him. Peak Hutton deserves a place too, and I'd be onboard with McFadden in the squad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Central Belt Caley Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Dunning1874 said: Darren Fletcher is the obvious shout, at his 2008-10 pre-injury peak there are very few teams in Europe he wouldn't be a starter for. There was a reason SAF trusted him in the big games. Probably closest thing we had to a “world class” player when I was growing up. (Not saying he was world class) Reckon you’d have Kenny Miller in the squad but would he start over Dykes/Adams? Not sure. Would fit into the pressing sort of style but not sure he was a better overall player. Hutton and Mcfadden would be in too for me. Hickey and Hutton could team up like Tierney and Robertson do on the left IMO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self-raising Lazarus Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Ferguson would've thrived with technical midfielders around him to dictate possession and wide players who can break 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorOnopko Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 4 hours ago, immcinto said: McFadden was great for that level of team and lovely to watch, but he was never a Premier League standard player. Struggled at Everton. Kenny Miller , maybe I think that's pretty harsh. He struggled with injuries but still managed 150+ games in the EPL and was at Everton for 5 seasons. He was always quite mercurial but scored some brilliant goals (albeit maybe not quite enough of them for the talent he had on his day). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 19 hours ago, Self-raising Lazarus said: Craig Mackail-Smith started for scotland against Brazil........ Naw he didnae (came on as an 87th min sub) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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