Duries Air Freshener Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Neither life saving vaccines nor abortions are compulsory, the big difference is the US are trying to make abortions illegal, even for 10 year old raped children. "Mo boady ma choice" doesn't make any sense where vaccines and abortions are voluntary options. I think it’s unfair to say the US are trying to make abortions illegal. All that’s happened is it’s been brought back to the States, adhering to the constitution and allowing democracy to actually take place. I don’t think he was saying either abortions or vaccines are compulsory though, but just exposing the double standards regarding ‘ma boady ma choice!’ Many only apply the above erroneous phrase to one of these situations. Edited July 5, 2022 by Duries Air Freshener -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Duries Air Freshener said: I think it’s unfair to say the US are trying to make abortions illegal. All that’s happened is it’s been brought back to the States, allowing democracy to actually take place. I don’t think he was saying either abortions or vaccines are compulsory though, but just exposing the double standards regarding ‘ma boady ma choice!’ Many only apply the above erroneous phrase to one of these situations. I don't think you actually believe a word you spout on here, including being a fan of Bernard Manning and Lawrence Fox, if you are you're a shite advocate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duries Air Freshener Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I don't think you actually believe a word you spout on here, including being a fan of Bernard Manning and Lawrence Fox, if you are you're a shite advocate. Feel free to answer my points, if you actually have an argument. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Fox is absolutely determined to outdo Musk in the battle for world's most divorced man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ervin H Burrell said: Fox is absolutely determined to outdo Musk in the battle for world's most divorced man. If Billie Piper propositioned you, you'd likely have to KB her given her track record and what it might say about you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Duries Air Freshener said: Feel free to answer my points, if you actually have an argument. You haven't made any points, apart from approving a tweet that makes zero sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duries Air Freshener Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: You haven't made any points, apart from approving a tweet that makes zero sense. Incorrect. Instead of answering my points, you started spouting stuff about Bernard Manning. I can't tell you how to post, but ignoring points with attempts at deflection is not a good look. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Duries Air Freshener said: Incorrect. Instead of answering my points, you started spouting stuff about Bernard Manning. I can't tell you how to post, but ignoring points with attempts at deflection is not a good look. You haven't made a point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duries Air Freshener Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: You haven't made a point. OK, you're trolling now. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, Duries Air Freshener said: OK, you're trolling now. I'm happy for others to decide who the troll is here. Good evening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duries Air Freshener Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I'm happy for others to decide who the troll is here. Good evening. Again, feel free to answer my points. Otherwise, it's an easy win. Edited July 5, 2022 by Duries Air Freshener -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Duries Air Freshener Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Snafu said: He's correct you haven't made any points, Fox made the point not you, you just agreed with him. What were the other points, I don't see them unless your name is Lawrence Fox, Lawrence? The unanswered points are in the post directly before Welshy's Bernard Manning segway. Edited July 6, 2022 by Duries Air Freshener 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Venom Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Lawrence Fox is bankrolled by Jeremy Hosking, a rabid Brexiteer, long time Tory donor, Farage fanatic, investor in fossil fuels etc etc (standard check box exercise). Let's not pretend that Fox is some kind of unshackled free thinker. Utterly unsurprising that useful idiots like Stormzy are being played like an absolute fiddle by these twerps, if any of this is even in good faith (spoiler: it's not). 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 13 hours ago, Duries Air Freshener said: I think it’s unfair to say the US are trying to make abortions illegal. All that’s happened is it’s been brought back to the States, adhering to the constitution and allowing democracy to actually take place. I don’t think he was saying either abortions or vaccines are compulsory though, but just exposing the double standards regarding ‘ma boady ma choice!’ Many only apply the above erroneous phrase to one of these situations. Ok, i'll play, even though i should know better. It is fair to say that the US is trying to make abortions illegal, although that contention needs qualified by adding "in states where there's a majority of book burning creationist nutters". You would be "exposing a double standard*" if there was a double standard. Very few people that favour vaccines dispute that they should be voluntary. Pro-choice campaigners generally do not spread made up shit of facebook about 5g or nanobots being a consequence of pregnancy. I find the atrempt to draw a false equivalence here quite distasteful to be honest. *bonus troll points for self important pomposity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, Jeff Venom said: Lawrence Fox is bankrolled by Jeremy Hosking, a rabid Brexiteer, long time Tory donor, Farage fanatic, investor in fossil fuels etc etc (standard check box exercise). Let's not pretend that Fox is some kind of unshackled free thinker. Utterly unsurprising that useful idiots like Stormzy are being played like an absolute fiddle by these twerps, if any of this is even in good faith (spoiler: it's not). Grifters going to grift. He's this guy with a posh family. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duries Air Freshener Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 (edited) 49 minutes ago, coprolite said: Ok, i'll play, even though i should know better. It is fair to say that the US is trying to make abortions illegal, although that contention needs qualified by adding "in states where there's a majority of book burning creationist nutters". You would be "exposing a double standard*" if there was a double standard. Very few people that favour vaccines dispute that they should be voluntary. Pro-choice campaigners generally do not spread made up shit of facebook about 5g or nanobots being a consequence of pregnancy. I find the atrempt to draw a false equivalence here quite distasteful to be honest. *bonus troll points for self important pomposity. Play? This isn’t a game, but a good faith discussion. Well, it is at my end anyway, but I can’t say the same for Welshy. The US isn’t trying to make abortions illegal (unfortunately) - only some of the States are. Ill ignore your ignorant remarks about book burning creationist nutters, 5G and nanobots. Perhaps these was all part of your game-playing. They certainly aren’t constructive anyway. There is indeed a double standard. People say a woman should always get to decide what happens to their body in terms of abortion (even though there’s 2 bodies) yet the same people don’t say the same when it comes to vaccines. This is what I believe Foxy was getting at. It really is that simple. Edited July 6, 2022 by Duries Air Freshener -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonapersona Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 1 hour ago, coprolite said: Ok, i'll play, even though i should know better. It is fair to say that the US is trying to make abortions illegal, although that contention needs qualified by adding "in states where there's a majority of book burning creationist nutters". You would be "exposing a double standard*" if there was a double standard. Very few people that favour vaccines dispute that they should be voluntary. Pro-choice campaigners generally do not spread made up shit of facebook about 5g or nanobots being a consequence of pregnancy. I find the atrempt to draw a false equivalence here quite distasteful to be honest. *bonus troll points for self important pomposity. This is of course, correct. Creationists have got a foot in the door. They've already started with their prayers in schools nonsense. They've been trying to get intelligent design taught in science classes for decades. So far it's been pushed back because there's absolutely zero empirical evidence for it. Unfortunately the momentum and money lies with the creationists. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Duries Air Freshener said: Play? This isn’t a game, but a good faith discussion. Well, it is at my end anyway, but I can’t say the same for Welshy. The US isn’t trying to make abortions illegal (unfortunately) - only some of the States are. Ill ignore your ignorant remarks about book burning creationist nutters, 5G and nanobots. Perhaps these was all part of your game-playing. They certainly aren’t constructive anyway. There is indeed a double standard. People say a woman should always get to decide what happens to their body in terms of abortion (even though there’s 2 bodies) yet the same people don’t say the same when it comes to vaccines. This is what I believe Foxy was getting at. It really is that simple. My remarks are highly informed and not ignorant. I'll thank you not to ignore them. Sorry i called you a nutter. Not all book burning creationist anti vaxxers are nutters. Many are just really stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duries Air Freshener Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, coprolite said: My remarks are highly informed and not ignorant. I'll thank you not to ignore them. Sorry i called you a nutter. Not all book burning creationist anti vaxxers are nutters. Many are just really stupid. Nicely dodged. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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