johnnydun Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Really liked the amputee feature this week. Looks like they don't hold back. Inspiring. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordecai Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 1 hour ago, DA Baracus said: Nothing about our (Dunfermline) win at Airdrie?! Just a comeback from 3 nil down with 30 minutes to go to win 3-4. Regular occurrence I suppose not worth a mention. Also on topic, we've not lost a home game all season and we're playing Airdrie. Surprisingly no one picked it for the banker (watch as it's a 0-0 draw). Did they not say Dunfermline was included in their definition of the central belt? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 7 hours ago, Mordecai said: Did they not say Dunfermline was included in their definition of the central belt? Ah, maybe! Good point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 I really like the show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moorie Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Good show as always. Enjoy the features that have someone showing their collection. Wife moans at me about programs and shirts. Least ain’t as bad as these guys 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Looking forward to the piece on Scotty P. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 On 23/02/2023 at 21:18, LIVIFOREVER said: Looking forward to the piece on Scotty P. I heard that this has went straight into the 'Terrible Journalism' thread. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 On 23/02/2023 at 21:18, LIVIFOREVER said: Looking forward to the piece on Scotty P. We've been over the 'Livi are c***s' thing and I'm aware it's been done to death. But it's absolutely depressing that a show of the type of AVFTT treats Livi like a legitimate fitba club. An English equivalent to this show would NEVER feature the MK Franchise. Fanzine and fan culture in general absolutely and openly abhors them. Yet, in Scotland, nothing. Scottish fitba's cultural acceptance of Livi continues to utterly dismay me. Get them to f**k. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 2 hours ago, VincentGuerin said: I’ve been over the 'Livi are c***s' thing and I'm aware I’ve done it to death. FTFY 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, AJF said: FTFY Responses like this are what I mean. 'Stop it, it's boring'. Yet, talk about B teams and everyone loses their minds. Everyone's just cool with Livi. The comparison with MK Dons is startling. A show like AVFTT covering English fitba wouldn't dream of treating them with anything approaching respect. Look at how MK remain pariahs to this day. Yet in Scotland absolutely nobody cares, despite our fitba apparently being more 'raw' and 'real' etc. It's strange. Anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 57 minutes ago, AJF said: FTFY Vincent watching last night's AVFTT when Scotty P came on. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 52 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said: Responses like this are what I mean. 'Stop it, it's boring'. Yet, talk about B teams and everyone loses their minds. Everyone's just cool with Livi. The comparison with MK Dons is startling. A show like AVFTT covering English fitba wouldn't dream of treating them with anything approaching respect. Look at how MK remain pariahs to this day. Yet in Scotland absolutely nobody cares, despite our fitba apparently being more 'raw' and 'real' etc. It's strange. Anyway. The comparison may be startling but it’s not exactly the same scenario though, is it? When they were Ferranti Thistle, I’m sure they had to change their name (and location) to Meadowbank upon entry to the Scottish League system as the rules didn’t allow company/business names. Then the move from Meadowbank to Livingston, around 30 years ago now, was mainly due to financial difficulty. They would’ve folded had they remained there, or so I believe. To suggest staying put and fold is a preferred alternative, I think is a bit iffy. Even at that, the move was only about 15 miles away. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, AJF said: The comparison may be startling but it’s not exactly the same scenario though, is it? When they were Ferranti Thistle, I’m sure they had to change their name (and location) to Meadowbank upon entry to the Scottish League system as the rules didn’t allow company/business names. Then the move from Meadowbank to Livingston, around 30 years ago now, was mainly due to financial difficulty. They would’ve folded had they remained there, or so I believe. To suggest staying put and fold is a preferred alternative, I think is a bit iffy. Even at that, the move was only about 15 miles away. Not derailing this thread with an in-depth conversation that I've had before and that you can find by searching the Livi thread itself. My comment relates to the content of AVFTT. Suffice to say, I feel your representation of the situation is incorrect, as detailed at great length elsewhere. Edited February 25, 2023 by VincentGuerin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squonk Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, AJF said: Then the move from Meadowbank to Livingston, around 30 years ago now, was mainly due to financial difficulty. They would’ve folded had they remained there, or so I believe. To suggest staying put and fold is a preferred alternative, I think is a bit iffy. Surely only a meaningless expendable company would've folded. The immortal ethereal essence of the club would've floated off and attached itself to another meaningless expendable company in due course, according to the fiction concocted for the gullible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said: Not derailing this thread with an in-depth conversation that I've had before and that you can find by searching the Livi thread itself. My comment relates to the content of AVFTT. Which I think is a shame, because Pittman’s story is a pretty incredible one which you take objection to simply due to the club he plays for. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, AJF said: Which I think is a shame, because Pittman’s story is a pretty incredible one which you take objection to simply due to the club he plays for. Well, yes. The club being covered is a pretty big part of any fitba story. 'Livi legend' passed off as a good thing and with no comment. This is what I mean about the differing coverage between England and supposedly more authentic Scotland. You'd simply never get coverage of MK Dons like this in an English fanzine show, or something that passes itself off as a modern/right-on kind of football coverage. Regardless of the player. Nobody at MK Dons would be afforded this sort of coverage. It would be interesting to know how MK Dons would be covered were they a top tier side, and had won a cup etc like Livi have. Fortunately, they've achieved neither of these things. But the difference in treatment of two very, very similar situations is quite noticeable. I suppose in reference to AVFTT, the presenters generally seem quite young and their not remembering what happened combined with the general fitba community apathy to it explains why they'd have no objection to Livi. But I have a huge objection to Livi, and I think anyone who cares about football governance should do too. This grates in comparison with the tone of AVFTT in general. For example, consider how you think the show would cover the theft of Meadowbank were it taking place currently. Edited February 25, 2023 by VincentGuerin -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 hour ago, AJF said: FTFY That's the second time this week he's spoken on behalf of the PnB masses 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 For someone who doesn't want to talk at length or derail the thread, there's sure a lot of talking at length and derailing of thread going on from this poster. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Derry Alli said: For someone who doesn't want to talk at length or derail the thread, there's sure a lot of talking at length and derailing of thread going on from this poster. I've posted about the content of AVFTT and the inconsistencies of it, thanks very much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said: Well, yes. The club being covered is a pretty big part of any fitba story. 'Livi legend' passed off as a good thing and with no comment. This is what I mean about the differing coverage between England and supposedly more authentic Scotland. You'd simply never get coverage of MK Dons like this in an English fanzine show, or something that passes itself off as a modern/right-on kind of football coverage. Regardless of the player. Nobody at MK Dons would be afforded this sort of coverage. It would be interesting to know how MK Dons would be covered were they a top tier side, and had won a cup etc like Livi have. Fortunately, they've achieved neither of these things. But the difference in treatment of two very, very similar situations is quite noticeable. I suppose in reference to AVFTT, the presenters generally seem quite young and their not remembering what happened combined with the general fitba community apathy to it explains why they'd have no objection to Livi. But I have a huge objection to Livi, and I think anyone who cares about football governance should do too. This grates in comparison with the tone of AVFTT in general. For example, consider how you think the show would cover the theft of Meadowbank were it taking place currently. I dislike Livingston more than most, mainly due to Dundee's relegation at their cheating hands with a certain ineligible player. However, your take on Livingston is wild. Absolutely take the piss out of plastic fans and plastic pitches, but not to recognise them as a legitimate club is wild. Were you a Meadowbank fan before? Or did Marcio Maximo pump your other half? Edited February 25, 2023 by johnnydun 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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