Guest Flash Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 On 28/05/2019 at 19:12, HibeeJibee said: According to HL fixture-list published today R1 is Wednesday 7th August and R2 follows immediately on Wednesday 14th August .https://www.northern-scot.co.uk/sport/fixture-list-announced-for-17-team-highland-league-in-season-2019-20-178516/ Are they maybe trying to complete more rounds before the Irish league season finishes? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Flash said: Are they maybe trying to complete more rounds before the Irish league season finishes? It says Championship clubs want to enter 1 round later i.e. R2 (although it says R3: Preliminary being rebranded as R1?), and that it's in September which would be no different to before. All else being equal (e.g. assuming 2x Conference sides enter) that would require 24 teams to play in the Preliminary, up from 4. 2 hours ago, Radford said: You need to cut 32 teams (10 League One, 10 League Two, 12 Colts) plus any Highland/Lowland League entrants down to 28 teams. Round 1: 12 Colts plus Berwick, East Kilbride, Brora Rangers, Fraserburgh. (16 teams to 8 teams) Your R1 is Preliminary by another name, and you exclude 1 HL & 3 LL entirely. Edited June 1, 2019 by HibeeJibee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flash Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: It says Championship clubs want to enter 1 round later i.e. R2 (although it says R3: Preliminary being rebranded as R1?), and that it's in September which would be no different to before. All else being equal (e.g. assuming 2x Conference sides enter) that would require 24 teams to play in the Preliminary, up from 4. You had a link to HL that said R1 was 7 August and R2 was 14th August. That was what I meant by them trying to get more rounds in earlier. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Flash said: You had a link to HL that said R1 was 7 August and R2 was 14th August. That was what I meant by them trying to get more rounds in earlier. Appears more likely "R1 & R2" are new names for "Preliminary & R1". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 On 01/06/2019 at 08:47, Radford said: If 18 teams (10 Championship and 8 foreign) come in at R3, you need 14 ties in R2. You need to cut 32 teams (10 League One, 10 League Two, 12 Colts) plus any Highland/Lowland League entrants down to 28 teams. Maybe... Round 1: 12 Colts plus Berwick, East Kilbride, Brora Rangers, Fraserburgh. (16 teams to 8 teams) Round 2: 10 League One clubs, 10 League Two clubs plus R1 winners. (28 teams to 14 teams) Round 3: 10 Championship clubs, Waterford, Bohemians, 2 clubs from ENG/WAL/NI plus R2 winners. (32 teams to 16 teams) As far as I am aware, there won't be any English teams in it anymore. If that is true, an option could be: Round 1: 12 colts, 6 LL, 6 HL (24 --> 12) Round 2: 10 League One clubs, 10 League Two clubs, 12 R1 winners (32 --> 16) Round 3: 10 Championship clubs, 2 clubs from ROI/WAL/NI, 16 R2 winners (32 --> 16) Although I'd rather have no colts at all, so there could be a first round with 6 LL & 6 HL teams plus the 10 L1/L2 clubs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Anyone know if the Irn Bru sponsorship ended up being extended for this year? https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/sport/football/scottish-football/irn-bru-ready-to-put-more-fizz-into-the-cup/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrunitedfw Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 I’ve said it before but I do enjoy the two teams from England/Wales/NI/ROI being involved in the completion as it gives the chance of a class away day however the Colt teams can get in the sea. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Anyone know if the Irn Bru sponsorship ended up being extended for this year?https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/sport/football/scottish-football/irn-bru-ready-to-put-more-fizz-into-the-cup/Nothing has been announced, which suggests to me that it's unlikely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Will they be able to run the competition without a sponsor? Clubs seem to be struggling to make it pay as it is. I think it was in the late nineties it stopped for a season or two when they couldn't attract anyone to back it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Skyline Drifter has mentioned before that it was a loss-making venture even with a sponsor during the final days of the SFL - it was basically being propped up by the SFL as a sort of showpiece/vanity project. It was implied that the SPFL wasn't willing to do that, and therefore it was basically this current set up or nothing. Without a sponsor it might soon be "nothing". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghBlue Posted June 3, 2019 Author Share Posted June 3, 2019 As far as I am aware, there won't be any English teams in it anymore. If that is true, an option could be: Round 1: 12 colts, 6 LL, 6 HL (24 --> 12) Round 2: 10 League One clubs, 10 League Two clubs, 12 R1 winners (32 --> 16) Round 3: 10 Championship clubs, 2 clubs from ROI/WAL/NI, 16 R2 winners (32 --> 16) Although I'd rather have no colts at all, so there could be a first round with 6 LL & 6 HL teams plus the 10 L1/L2 clubs.Presumably Glasgow teams' colts will get a bye, preferably straight to the final. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Presumably Glasgow teams' colts will get a bye, preferably straight to the final. Partick Thistle and Queens Park? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdenbeath Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 20 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said: Anyone know if the Irn Bru sponsorship ended up being extended for this year? https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/sport/football/scottish-football/irn-bru-ready-to-put-more-fizz-into-the-cup/ I heard someone mention that there is to be a new sponsor no idea who. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowhereman Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Skyline Drifter has mentioned before that it was a loss-making venture even with a sponsor during the final days of the SFL - it was basically being propped up by the SFL as a sort of showpiece/vanity project. It was implied that the SPFL wasn't willing to do that, and therefore it was basically this current set up or nothing. Without a sponsor it might soon be "nothing".Fingers crossed -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firhill_Basin Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 The competition has its worth to lower league clubs as a legitimate change to win something, but if its running at a loss and being used as nothing more than an agenda for the Old Firm then cheerio. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 15 hours ago, cowdenbeath said: I heard someone mention that there is to be a new sponsor no idea who. Whatever happened to the P&B idea for us to all club together to sponsor the League Cup and brand it as the "Neil Doncaster is a Cockwomble League Cup"? I'm pretty sure we could easily reach the £100 needed to do it for this competition. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Diamond Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 I would chip in if it could be arranged to be the cockwomble memorial cup 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 On 27/05/2019 at 17:56, EdinburghBlue said: Wonder what ridiculous new wheeze the SPFL will come up with this year for the Challenge Cup? Anyway, usual kickoff question... when's the draw? On 27/05/2019 at 20:07, HibeeJibee said: I was going to say at least it couldn't be made any worse but then I remembered the first year of the new arrangement with a silly number of rounds and foreign sides entering at Last 16. Who knows. Little over 6 weeks to alleged R1 and still no format, entry, dates or sponsor AFAICS except rumour of an extra round and/or big sides entering later. Maybe info in SPFL fixtures tomorrow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyro Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) Could we not just go with.. Round 1: 7 LL, 7 HL and 10 League2 (24–>12) with League2 teams, Berwick Rangers and EK seeded Round 2: 12 R1, 10 League1, 10 Championship (32–>16) Call it the Neil Doncaster is a Cockwomble Challenge Cup and get on with it without the carry on of having colts and other teams involved? Edited June 20, 2019 by Spyro 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 I thought I read/heard that there was going to be more news on the format next week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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