laughing gravie Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 VAR has been used extensively for this competition, but the rules governing it's use seem to change depending on who are playing at the time? Funny that having used VAR to determine if a penalty should be awarded, the two that have been saved have had to be retaken because the goalkeepers have moved fractionally off heir lines? Now we are into the knock out stages, the 'goalposts' have been moved again. If there is a penalty shoot out the keepers can move off their line now? Excuse me, but a penalty is a penalty if it happens in 120 minutes of play or in a penalty shoot out. I know it's just the burds, but the decisions here could have a big effect on the man's game later. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Watson Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 I'm actually looking forward to the seethe during the coming season from fans, who indirectly have caused all this VAR nonsense due to their ridiculing of referee's around the world. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 The only change is that goalkeepers won't be booked for it during a shoot-out. The penalties would still be retaken. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Brannigan Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) VAR would be improved vastly if there was a challenge situation like in tennis. Give each team two challenges per half and if they're successful they get to keep it, if not they lose it. None of this nonsense checking every decision! ETA goal line technology should be kept as a minimum compulsory check only. The rest of to the team/management to appeal Edited June 23, 2019 by Zapp Brannigan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Zapp Brannigan said: VAR would be improved vastly if there was a challenge situation like in tennis. Give each team two challenges per half and if they're successful they get to keep it, if not they lose it. None of this nonsense checking every decision! ETA goal line technology should be kept as a minimum compulsory check only. The rest of to the team/management to appeal Who decides when a team can use a challenge - any player, the captain, or only the manager? IFAB already considered this but rightly rejected it: Quote Why are coaches not allowed to request a review? In principle, there is no need for a coach to request a review because the VAR system is for ‘clear errors’ and it is highly unlikely that a coach would see a clear error that had not been detected by the VAR. In addition, during the consultations, coaches and players felt strongly that coach reviews were not desirable as they would probably be used mainly for (often unsporting) tactical reasons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, Zapp Brannigan said: VAR would be improved vastly if there was a challenge situation like in tennis. Give each team two challenges per half and if they're successful they get to keep it, if not they lose it. None of this nonsense checking every decision! ETA goal line technology should be kept as a minimum compulsory check only. The rest of to the team/management to appeal I think the problem with that idea is big teams would have a mass of video analysts pouring over every decision, like they do for the challenge system in the NFL and you may as well keep the current system. I still think it's been introduced shambolically in the woman's world cup. I fail to understand the need for the referee to jog over to a screen to waste time. Get the VAR ref to make the call and you speed things up. I don't mind the narrow offsides- that's the game, but the goalkeeper ones when it's tight are a bit over the top. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForzaDundee Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 VAR should be removed from football. Not heard anyone point out that the referees are obviously not up to the standard. Don't understand why experienced men referees can't be used. Surely gender of the officials doesn't matter, as shown by females refereeing male matches. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftk Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 I think I'm in the minority but I really like VAR. Adds to the drama. Looking forward to watching it in the English Premier League next season. They are going to show it on stadium screens so that could be interesting for supporters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForzaDundee Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 VAR is for virgins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftk Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 VAR should be removed from football. Not heard anyone point out that the referees are obviously not up to the standard. Don't understand why experienced men referees can't be used. Surely gender of the officials doesn't matter, as shown by females refereeing male matches.Men get as much criticism as women. Just look at the Scottish Premiership last season. It's practically impossible for officials to get everything right anyway. How many times have you watched an incident live then changed your mind when watching the replay? Probably happens at least once every match. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 minute ago, ftk said: Men get as much criticism as men. It's hard to argue with that. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Has FIFA ruined the Burds World Cup? Has the apostrophe ruined your thread title? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 The point of VAR is meant to be to correct "clear and obvious errors". There are too many "debatable" cases being reviewed. That's missing the whole point. If a situation can be seen as "debatable" (i.e. giving a penalty/red etc. or not could both be defended using the laws of the game), the referee's decision should stand and no review should take place. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftk Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 VAR is for virginsThe referee in the Scotland v Argentina game had 3 kids?How did that happen??? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Just now, ftk said: The referee in the Scotland v Argentina game had 3 kids? How did that happen??? VAR does take ages tbf. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForzaDundee Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, ftk said: The referee in the Scotland v Argentina game had 3 kids? How did that happen??? Who knows what they're up to in North Korea Edited June 23, 2019 by ForzaDundee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Yes it's utterly rubbish that the assistants have been told don't flag for offsides in case you're wrong. The referee could always overrule the assistant if they didn't agree with the call playing on to let the play develop when there has been a clear offside is crazy. If VAR is to stay and it's not a challenge system then it has to be a constant stream of information to the referee telling them which way throwing go, if a corner kick is over the D and if the freekick is being taken from the exact place the foul was committed. It's utterly bizarre to have a referee not allow a player to enter the field of play before restarting the and noone to say hold on and then 60 seconds later a penalty is retaken because the assistant didn't see the keeper inches off her line. Either use it or dont, its current slow and cumbersome style doesn't work. Challenges are for me, providing the clock is paused and play isint stopped to make the challenge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnHearts Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Adam101 said: Yes it's utterly rubbish that the assistants have been told don't flag for offsides in case you're wrong. The referee could always overrule the assistant if they didn't agree with the call playing on to let the play develop when there has been a clear offside is crazy. If VAR is to stay and it's not a challenge system then it has to be a constant stream of information to the referee telling them which way throwing go, if a corner kick is over the D and if the freekick is being taken from the exact place the foul was committed. It's utterly bizarre to have a referee not allow a player to enter the field of play before restarting the and noone to say hold on and then 60 seconds later a penalty is retaken because the assistant didn't see the keeper inches off her line. Either use it or dont, its current slow and cumbersome style doesn't work. Challenges are for me, providing the clock is paused and play isint stopped to make the challenge. Pretty much spot on. I'm sure there were at least 3 corners that weren't given tonight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, ali_91 said: You can safely say that in the knowledge that your two bit outfit will never play at a level where it will be introduced. Football is not a TV show. If a TV show is something that is controlled and even commissioned by broadcasters then yes I'm afriad football especially at the highest level is a TV show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumpweed Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 The womens game is of comical proportions as it is so this only adds to the hilarity. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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