the jambo-rocker Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 There’s a few issues to overcome with the Haddington rail line. Unless I’m mistaken you need to demolish and rebuild a section of the A1 as the bridge section over the old line isn’t suitable, mind you this was done on the Edinburgh City Bypass for the Borders Railway. You then have the issue of capacity at Waverley and on the East Coast line itself, would you take trains away from North Berwick, Dunbar etc.You are correct about the bridge section. Daft that they never kept it under consideration in hindsight. Not something that can't be worked around though. I still see that video on my social media feed, showing off the tunnel they inserted under a Dutch motorway that they installed over a weekend and wonder why we are not capable of something similar.On the Waverley traffic, they should be looking to expand it anyway. At the rate Edinburgh and it's suburbs are increasing, it will be as big as Glasgow in 20 years time, yet there is little to no planning on infrastructure to handle it aside from the trams. Just means that everyone's commute, car, bus or train, is going to get worse unless the address it ASAP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, the jambo-rocker said: I still see that video on my social media feed, showing off the tunnel they inserted under a Dutch motorway that they installed over a weekend Nae messin.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btOE0rcKDC0 Edited February 16, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Dom has one of his vaunted weirdos in No.10 Quote According to the Mail on Sunday, Mr Sabisky also posted to the website run by Mr Cummings, saying existing vaccination laws could pave the way for mandatory birth control. "One way to get around problems of unplanned pregnances creating a permanent underclass would be to legally enforce universal uptake of long-term contraception at the onset of puberty," he wrote. "Vaccination laws give it a predecent, I would argue." Quote And in a series of now-deleted tweets seen by the paper, the researcher also described female Labour MPs Yvette Cooper, Angela Rayner and Rebecca Long-Bailey as "dim", while writing in another that: "I am always straight up in saying that women's sport is more comparable to the Paralympics than it is to men's." Cummings might as well start hiring some of the right wing thickos off here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 It’s quite depressing how unsurprising I find the government hiring an aide who advocates eugenics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Yes but its only for poor people so its ok..The Daily Mail It’s quite depressing how unsurprising I find the government hiring an aide who advocates eugenics. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 On 15/02/2020 at 09:54, Pet Jeden said: They'd get it done all right. But there would be no independent trade union rights. Muslim workers would be kept in a prison camp. Landowners would be chucked a tenner for their compulsorily purchased land. Consultation would amount to being told to STFU. And any critics of the project would have an unfortunate tendency to disappear (after Huawei did their patriotic duty) This idea is insane. The UK's inability to build anything big in less than 50 years is frustrating, but some things are more important than efficiency and progress. Lol there are just about zero trade union rights here and on a big project like HS2 it will be mainly faux self employed contractors. The reason a project like Crossrail (and the Edinburgh trams) is late and overbudget is because that is in the interest of everyone who works on it to make it that way so they keep on getting paid for easy work for longer. Our productivity is flat lining because the primary goal isn't productivity but expansion of managerial classes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 20 minutes ago, The OP said: It’s quite depressing how unsurprising I find the government hiring an aide who advocates eugenics. I don't think it's actually eugenics because he seems to think that you can give every single girl contraceptives from the onset of puberty up to an age where he thinks pregnancy is ok. He is just a moron. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 As official government policy, killing the poor is unlikely to win many elections in the short term, but making sure they're never born in the first place? I can see that, although it'll take a lot of work. The mind boggles how it would be "legally enforced", though. Strapping folk down to be sterilised has never been a great look for any government, but who knows what the future may bring. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 1 minute ago, BigFatTabbyDave said: As official government policy, killing the poor is unlikely to win many elections in the short term, but making sure they're never born in the first place? I can see that, although it'll take a lot of work. The mind boggles how it would be "legally enforced", though. Strapping folk down to be sterilised has never been a great look for any government, but who knows what the future may bring. "Get Birth Control Done" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, BigFatTabbyDave said: As official government policy, killing the poor is unlikely to win many elections in the short term, but making sure they're never born in the first place? I can see that, although it'll take a lot of work. The mind boggles how it would be "legally enforced", though. Strapping folk down to be sterilised has never been a great look for any government, but who knows what the future may bring. Maybe it's why Johnson keeps trying to mimic Churchill, a big eugenics fan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BFTD Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Just now, MixuFixit said: Tories have won three elections while killing the poor tbh Careful, you'll wake the beast. Although, with all this talk of "poverty", it may be too late. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 56 minutes ago, Detournement said: I don't think it's actually eugenics because he seems to think that you can give every single girl contraceptives from the onset of puberty up to an age where he thinks pregnancy is ok. He is just a moron. There was the whole “eradicating the underclass” subtext. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 2 hours ago, MixuFixit said: Tories have won three elections while killing the poor tbh Pretty sure it's a few more than that. Unless you just mean the last 3. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Fraser Nelson is in favour of neutering the poor.Its a tory thing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 It’s always the ones who look and sound like they’ve escaped from Dr Moreau’s island that are in favour of eugenics 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 3 hours ago, doulikefish said: Fraser Nelson is in favour of neutering the poor.Its a tory thing The Guardian has this Tory adviser nutcase as the main story. I searched through some right-wing publications and there's nary a mention of this story. The Telegraph has it hidden down amongst the drivel, under the Harry and Megan gossip. Some of the comments on the story are frightening though....the Tory core support apparently agrees whole-heartedly with this guy's comments. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 19 hours ago, Detournement said: Lol there are just about zero trade union rights here and on a big project like HS2 it will be mainly faux self employed contractors. The reason a project like Crossrail (and the Edinburgh trams) is late and overbudget is because that is in the interest of everyone who works on it to make it that way so they keep on getting paid for easy work for longer. Our productivity is flat lining because the primary goal isn't productivity but expansion of managerial classes. 100% this. Nothing ever changes, Gov and Council contracts are just a licence to print money and benefits everyone who's in on it. Phantom overtime, little "perks" being handed out here and there, easy working environment with key stakeholders completely complicit in the entire process and it's a win win for everyone, except the tax payer of course........... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Suspect Boris and his mates will be coming under a lot of pressure from the meeja to compensate the thousands who have suffered horrendous damage to their homes thanks to Storm Dennis. Not sure if this is something they will have budgeted for, or even something they will want to contribute to. They made all kinds of compensatory noises during the November floods, which was of course, just prior to the December GE. Did all these promises made last time help any, or all those affected? What are they going to offer this time? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 hours ago, WATTOO said: 100% this. Nothing ever changes, Gov and Council contracts are just a licence to print money and benefits everyone who's in on it. Phantom overtime, little "perks" being handed out here and there, easy working environment with key stakeholders completely complicit in the entire process and it's a win win for everyone, except the tax payer of course........... Very true. John Harris has an article in the Guardian today concerning mental health care in England. It includes the accusation that private mental health providers set out to increase problematic behaviour in patients so their expensive stay in the private hospital is lucratively extended. Absolutely tragic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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