Marshmallo Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, pozbaird said: Indeed. Apparently though, you’re a zoomer if you dont accept that when this ‘two to three weeks behind Italy’ period plays out, we are cast-iron guaranteed to be just like them. Or Spain. As an aside, are we talking about Italy as a whole, or just the truly terribly affected Lombadi region? Are we allowing for any skewed London figures? So many questions, so many variables. Guess it doesn’t matter though. I’m just a zoomer adopting a ‘let’s wait and see before simply presuming we are glued to Italy at the knee in some bizarre three legged race to armageddon levels of tsunami death. Nobody is saying that though are they? We are following the curve that they had. Never mind though, we can all get out for jogs and we got one last piss up last Friday night. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 36 minutes ago, ayrmad said: I actually feared it shooting over 600 today, I think we're into the realms of hoping we're jammy b*****ds. That'll be coming, looking at the fact they NEED huge temporary hospitals tells me that they're expecting hundreds / thousands to be seriously ill within the next few weeks, that's when we'll start to see the Death rate accelerate accordingly. One of the Italian Doctors in Bergamo had noted that patients could be in hospital for up to three weeks and for those patients it was around a 50% mortality rate. Grim stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: Nobody is saying that though are they? We are following the curve that they had. No we're not? Italy and the UK have never plotted at the same point until now, we're crossing over their "curve" just now rather than following it. Closest curve for us seems to be China. Lockdown done with less than half the deaths at the time Italy done it. Spain obviously far worse. Edited March 26, 2020 by RandomGuy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, pozbaird said: Indeed. Apparently though, you’re a zoomer if you dont accept that when this ‘two to three weeks behind Italy’ period plays out, we are cast-iron guaranteed to be just like them. Or Spain. As an aside, are we talking about Italy as a whole, or just the truly terribly affected Lombadi region? Are we allowing for any skewed London figures? So many questions, so many variables. Guess it doesn’t matter though. I’m just a zoomer adopting a ‘let’s wait and see before simply presuming we are glued to Italy at the knee in some bizarre three legged race to armageddon levels of tsunami death. I've no idea where we'll be in a fortnight but it certainly wouldn't surprise me if we're up around 800 tomorrow, at least we've crossed over the line for doubling every 2.25 days now, hopefully nearer 3 than 2 tomorrow but I'm not holding my breath. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 16 minutes ago, WATTOO said: I think she might be a Welsh nurse ?? Will wait for @engelbert_humperdink to confirm, given he appears to be the mate everyone always talks about in these situations... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 minute ago, RandomGuy. said: No we're not? Italy and the UK have never plotted at the same point until now, we're crossing over their "curve" just now rather than following it. Closest curve for us seems to be China. Lockdown done with less than half the deaths at the time Italy done it. Spain obviously far worse. Did you mean to post a different graph? That's as near as dammit one for one with Italy. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossDee01 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Cue the self-employed who bend over backwards to minimise their tax liability since forever contacting HMRC to explain how those returns weren't accurate and they want 80% of what they really earned.I’ve seen a lot of this on social media and really don’t get it, is it a jealousy thing? I have absolutely no bug bears with people who work hard minimising their tax liability and perhaps taking advantage of the system. I’m sure if they could, employees would do everything they could to minimise tax liability as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Just now, RossDee01 said: I’ve seen a lot of this on social media and really don’t get it, is it a jealousy thing? I have absolutely no bug bears with people who work hard minimising their tax liability and perhaps taking advantage of the system. I’m sure if they could, employees would do everything they could to minimise tax liability as well. Indeed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philpy Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 The idiots won't need government advice. My neighbours are the kindest people you could ever meet and and are very close friends, but they have been letting neighbours and family walk in the house without saying fuckall to them. One of those neighbours works in a supermarket. My neighbour had polio when she was young and has a very weak immune system, so I don't think loads of people visiting is a great idea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: Did you mean to post a different graph? That's as near as dammit one for one with Italy. Its really not. Italy is the black/darkest grey line, UK is the purple/dark pink. We've been worse until the exact point this graph plots us at, which you could read as us starting to slow and cross over Italy while they were still shooting up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: No we're not? Italy and the UK have never plotted at the same point until now, we're crossing over their "curve" just now rather than following it. Closest curve for us seems to be China. Lockdown done with less than half the deaths at the time Italy done it. Spain obviously far worse. I'd wait for 3 or 4 days before we take our recent deviation too literally. I'll still be crossing my fingers until then, 4000 deaths or less by next Wednesday will be good, up near 6000 and I'll be behind the couch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: Nobody is saying that though are they? We are following the curve that they had. Never mind though, we can all get out for jogs and we got one last piss up last Friday night. Can’t remember the last time I personally had a piss up at all. Or a jog. Definitely had a short game of golf though the day before the club shut down. Definitely walked the road to and from Westerwood Hotel two days ago. Definitely went down to the retail park today and did a thirty minute walk around the loch before doing some shopping. I assume if you have a problem with this, you’ll detail exactly why, given the only time I wasn’t 2m away from someone was at the M&S till today while carrying out a cashless transaction. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Did you mean to post a different graph? That's as near as dammit one for one with Italy.The curve in Britain is different.Add in the factors about lockdown at half their deaths, and more time to prepare, and things are looking reasonably positive in terms of avoiding what Italy is going through.No doubt our worst is yet to come, but hopefully statistically not as severe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: Did you mean to post a different graph? That's as near as dammit one for one with Italy. It’s really not - the shape of the curve is much different, showing more sign of “flattening out”. Obviously nothing’s guaranteed and I’m not making any predictions but the shape of the UK’s curve makes it look like it would end up just below China. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossDee01 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 I'd wait for 3 or 4 days before we take our recent deviation too literally. I'll still be crossing my fingers until then, 4000 deaths or less by next Wednesday will be good, up near 6000 and I'll be behind the couch. London will get hammered by it I think which will rocket the numbers. Italy was the same where the majority of the cases were confined to one region. I can’t really see Scotland being hit too hard, the majority of us up here seem to be taking the whole thing more seriously and we’re naturally a lot more spread out up here than they are down there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 I'd have been fucked if I was still freelance/self-employed. Last 3 years tax records you say?!? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 minute ago, pozbaird said: Can’t remember the last time I personally had a piss up at all. Or a jog. Definitely had a short game of golf though the day before the club shut down. Definitely walked the road to and from Westerwood Hotel two days ago. Definitely went down to the retail park today and did a thirty minute walk around the loch before doing some shopping. I assume if you have a problem with this, you’ll detail exactly why, given the only time I wasn’t 2m away from someone was at the M&S till today while carrying out a cashless transaction. Why are you getting defensive? I haven't had a go at you with those posts. I'm saying that we are tracking similar numbers to Italy at the same stage and criticising the holistic UK government response. If you need to justify yourself playing golf or wandering about a retail park then you do what you have to do. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Just now, RossDee01 said: London will get hammered by it I think which will rocket the numbers. Italy was the same where about 90% of the cases were confined to one region. I can’t really see Scotland being hit too hard, the majority of us up here seem to be taking the whole thing more seriously and we’re naturally a lot more spread out up here than they are down there. Or we are a few weeks behind London. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossDee01 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 I'd have been fucked if I was still freelance/self-employed. Last 3 years tax records you say?!?A lot of people will be fucked. From my experience working in an local accounts practice the majority of sole traders and small companies make losses or very small profits. Still no confirmation that I can see if it’s going to be based on gross or net profit but I’d imagine it’s net, which would leave the majority of sole traders with no an awful lot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Why are you getting defensive? I haven't had a go at you with those posts. I'm saying that we are tracking similar numbers to Italy at the same stage and criticising the holistic UK government response. If you need to justify yourself playing golf or wandering about a retail park then you do what you have to do.You're being a bit of a 'we're all doomed' merchant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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