Marshmallo Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 No one on earth has it harder than someone marking the six times table while they eat biscuits and watch Coronation Street. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkmenbashi Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, oaksoft said: And how is that different from any other person in any other career? I have never had to do that 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, oaksoft said: I was very careful to use the word "career" instead of "job". If you can't understand the difference, that's on you. I can understand the difference. It’s indicative of your fantasy land that everyone with a career is dedicated to their job. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, coprolite said: It's because i find it extremely hard to believe that the lockdown has been ineffective or unnecessary. There is probably a good case that early measures were insufficient and late, granted. But if there was never any danger, as you suggest, then why would the government have needed to do any more? For the same reason they built extra hospitals. They panicked at the 500,000 figure and couldn't risk not having the additional capacity. Nightingale didnt open until about a week after the peak, and had taken just 41 patients by the 24th. I find it incredibly hard to believe a disease with an average time from infection to death of 24 days or there or there abouts would peak sharply just 18 days after lockdown started. Especially when, during that period supermarkets were rammed, and there was little in the way of social distancing outside or inside them like there is now. It seems too soon. I also find it incredible that we are still counting cases from March in a death total announced on 12th May as having died "in the last 24 hours" It's what leads to people going mental at the thought of easing lockdown when "hundreds are dying each day" which, whilst true, the actual number has been around 200 per day for over a week (around 13% of expected daily deaths) and has started to fall quite sharply over the last 5 days If the same method of counting is applied up here it would be interesting to see Edited May 12, 2020 by Todd_is_God 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heedthebaa Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, ayrmad said: this shitstorm will have to be paid for once it's over, hopefully we'll all be in it together this time round. Aye we will all have to pay this back, even the people who are getting f**k all 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Just now, heedthebaa said: Aye we will all have to pay this back, even the people who are getting f**k all The tax dodging multi-nationals will finally be asked to pay their share. Just kidding. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Nurses just got stuck in without asking where their extra hours were Fucking heard it all now. Oaksoft pitching for a job with the Daily Mail. Cringe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 minute ago, oaksoft said: I can only repeat. If you are not dedicated to your job then you shouldn't be near a classroom, a scalpel, the design on a jet engine, the list is endless. There are plenty of other jobs where you can go home at 5pm on the dot. Those folk should pick one of them. What about fantasists? When do they you get time off? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Steven W said: Do it fairly regularly. A wee 10 - 20 minutes every day 90 minutes a week. Nearly 2 weeks unpaid work per year 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 minute ago, oaksoft said: For the avoidance of doubt, in my opinion, when teachers are asked to step up in the next couple of months, they will do so in overwhelming numbers because they'll feel it's their duty to do so. The clock watchers will stand out like a sore thumb. It's way beyond time that we weed them out of the profession for the sake of our kids learning. Who are the clock watchers and how many of them have you complained about "for the sake of our kids" over you adult life? What were the outcomes of said complaints? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: You couldn’t pay me enough money to be a teacher. Mind you I’d be shit at it anyway. Me, either. (Your second sentence was superfluous.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 minute ago, oaksoft said: You don't know what a clock watcher is? Have you ever had paid employment in your life? You are inventing an endemic problem in the teaching profession that you cannot provide context for, and claiming it can be solved by the use of unpaid overtime. How many teachers have you encountered whom you had a problem with, and how did you resolve it? It's a simple concept. You are suggesting theres a problem that needs rooted out. I am saying any changes to teachers terms and conditions should be negotiated and agreed on, and would say the same for literally any other profession going. And that teachers have the right to reject. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: Me, either. (Your second sentence was superfluous.) Thanks, first time I’ve been called super anything on here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 minute ago, MixuFixit said: Blue Riband day on this thread Oaksoft’s wafer thin arguments? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Can't wait til those scientists at Oxford university are just on the cusp of finding out if their vaccine will work. "Nah. That's me loused for the day. My shift is finished. The vaccine will need to wait" -6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Anyone who has that attitude simply shouldn't be a teacher. Agree entirely. I'd hate to think that that a teacher was marking up work come the end of their 35 hour week and there was a still a few assignments needing checked. Surely he / she would spend a bit longer to get them don for the kids' sake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkmenbashi Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Steven W said: Can't wait til those scientists at Oxford university are just on the cusp of finding out if their vaccine will work. "Nah. That's me loused for the day. My shift is finished. The vaccine will need to wait" They will probably be going home when there shift is finished. If they do need to stay I imagine they would be asking for overtime. And you also clearly have zero idea how scientific research works. All round terrible post. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Steven W said: Can't wait til those scientists at Oxford university are just on the cusp of finding out if their vaccine will work. "Nah. That's me loused for the day. My shift is finished. The vaccine will need to wait" This is embarrassing 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Just now, oaksoft said: Overtime? What the f**k are you wittering on about. If you want to be paid an hourly rate or overtime then find a job which pays it. Teaching not one of those jobs. It should NEVER be one of those jobs. It is a vocation, a career. It's not a 9 to 5 job. It's a crucial part of our society. We need people who are serious about teaching kids as a career path. If you are seriously unaware of problem teachers then you are either at it or you don't know that profession. I fall into neither of those categories and I'm not wasting time messing about with you. Do your own research. Good luck with the denial on teaching standards and also trying to negotiate pay rises in the teeth of a pandemic. You think they should work extra hours for no extra pay. I dont need to do any research. You are asking for people to take a pay cut. I am defending peoples right to f**k that clean off. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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