Theroadlesstravelled Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 We need to stop all the white mansplaining that got us in this mess and adopt what Hong Kong, South Korea and Taiwan are doing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Just now, welshbairn said: You could always just go and quietly visit your extended family house by house. If I was a cop without full scale PPE I wouldn't go anywhere near a bunch of probably plague ridden manky Celtic fans, even without the Covid risk. They were standing not too far away from them doing fck all as usual. Probably just wanted their robocop faces on the telly. I’d visit my Aunt and Uncle as they live literally 2 mins away but they’ve fallen for the scaremongering and have basically been in their house for 2 months solidly, they wouldn't let me in 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: We need to stop all the white mansplaining that got us in this mess and adopt what Hong Kong, South Korea and Taiwan are doing. Playing games behind closed doors with sex dolls as the crowd? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 54 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: Can’t believe people are still panicking about easing lockdown measures. There’s been 2 deaths reported today (albeit it’s the tinpot weekend figures). The news tonight mentioned that “covid could be here to stay for years”. Should life be put on pause until it disappears? You've been panicking for 8 weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleMoo Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 If anyone's cut the grass. Safe job, but hardly essential.Certainly the courses round my way have been, not that I play anymore 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) Decent article about what the actual options are here. To sum up: TTI Rolling, targeted lockdowns Do nothing https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/12/tories-lockdown-social-distancing-testing-second-wave-coronavirus?__twitter_impression=true BTW this I'm pretty sure is the defo wid I mentioned a few pages back. Huv. Edit: apologies if this is fear mongering. Maybe don't read if you're in a mad panic and want to believe the really contagious virus isn't contagious anymore because we've spent 8 weeks in the house. Edited May 18, 2020 by madwullie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, ayrmad said: You've been panicking for 8 weeks. Ive not been panicking about the virus at all. I’ve just been missing my old life 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodhull Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Obviously far too early to get too excited about but sounds positive at least and is an indication that some progress is being made hopefully. https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/18/health/coronavirus-vaccine-moderna-early-results/index.html Quote It shows that not only did the antibody bind to the virus, but it prevented the virus from infecting the cells 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: Ive not been panicking about the virus at all. I’ve just been missing my old life Jesus, never get married! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: Ive not been panicking about the virus at all. I’ve just been missing my old life Thereisn'talight.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 16 minutes ago, madwullie said: No of course not. No-one anywhere is saying that. Just that we have to make sure it's safe and we can control it before we start to loosen, otherwise our only option is to lockdown again if it does what it does and starts to get exponential again. If the purpose of the lockdown is to prevent an exponential increase in the infection rate then why does Sweden - where there has been no such lockdown for fully two months - still have a much lower per capita case rate and death rate than Scotland and the UK respectively? They should have literally millions of cases and the highest death toll in Europe right now going by this line of argument but they simply do not. Some people got far too carried away about a brief period of rapid growth in cases and assumed that this would be a sustained trend - a straightforward comparison now shows that it wasn't. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 55 minutes ago, Snafu said: I haven't seen my mother since the second week of March she has dementia and is in a care home, she won't recognise anyone in the family now. Hopefully you get to see her soon, this has been dreadful for so many people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 If anyone's cut the grass. Safe job, but hardly essential.Sorry to piss on your chips (not really), but for clubs to survive to the other side if this then course maintainance was deemed essential by the government. If greens hadn't been cut and fed properly they would have died off by now, and would need replaced at an estimated cost of 30k per green. That would have put the vast majority of clubs in Scotland out of business. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, virginton said: If the purpose of the lockdown is to prevent an exponential increase in the infection rate then why does Sweden - where there has been no such lockdown for fully two months - still have a much lower per capita case rate and death rate than Scotland and the UK respectively? They should have literally millions of cases and the highest death toll in Europe right now going by this line of argument but they simply do not. Some people got far too carried away about a brief period of rapid growth in cases and assumed that this would be a sustained trend - a straightforward comparison now shows that it wasn't. Isn't Sweden doing markedly worse than their neighbours who have far tighter lockdowns, and generally closer demographics, culture and connectivity to Sweden than to the UK, and thus a more direct comparison. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: Ive not been panicking about the virus at all. I’ve just been missing my old life I never said it was about the virus, they could have piled the bodies up on the street and you'd still have moaned and whined about the lockdown, you'd better get used to this as it ain't going back to normal for a long while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, peasy23 said: Sorry to piss on your chips (not really), but for clubs to survive to the other side if this then course maintainance was deemed essential by the government. If greens hadn't been cut and fed properly they would have died off by now, and would need replaced at an estimated cost of 30k per green. That would have put the vast majority of clubs in Scotland out of business. Glad to hear it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Just now, ayrmad said: I never said it was about the virus, they could have piled the bodies up on the street and you'd still have moaned and whined about the lockdown, you'd better get used to this as it ain't going back to normal for a long while. It will though. There is only so much political capital than can be expended on a extraordinary situation, omly so much patience, and at some point society will affect it's own version of normality which will involve all the things it likes doing at the expense of freedoms of those weaker and more vulnerable. This trend will be accelerated by the recoveries outside our borders and the necessity to get the economy running. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, renton said: It will though. There is only so much political capital than can be expended on a extraordinary situation, omly so much patience, and at some point society will affect it's own version of normality which will involve all the things it likes doing at the expense of freedoms of those weaker and more vulnerable. This trend will be accelerated by the recoveries outside our borders and the necessity to get the economy running. All that is still a while away. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 21 minutes ago, virginton said: If the purpose of the lockdown is to prevent an exponential increase in the infection rate then why does Sweden - where there has been no such lockdown for fully two months - still have a much lower per capita case rate and death rate than Scotland and the UK respectively? They should have literally millions of cases and the highest death toll in Europe right now going by this line of argument but they simply do not. Some people got far too carried away about a brief period of rapid growth in cases and assumed that this would be a sustained trend - a straightforward comparison now shows that it wasn't. That's a good point and there's definitely a lot to be learned about Sweden. But almost every western country experienced exponential growth until they locked down. Maybe social distancing alone would have been enough? I do think we'll see a very sharp rise in cases in places where the govt and/or the public don't take those measures seriously in the coming months tho. The virus hasn't got any less contagious 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, virginton said: Some people got far too carried away about a brief period of rapid growth in cases and assumed that this would be a sustained trend - a straightforward comparison now shows that it wasn't. Hypothetical question. Had the virus not first popped up in a region of Italy which ultimately had a health system which was unable to cope, how many countries would have locked down rather than look to temporarily increase capacity and maybe encourage vulnerable groups yo be extra cautious? I may have missed this as all the focus was on Italy, but how many other countries saw their healthcare systems overwhelmed? Edited May 18, 2020 by Todd_is_God 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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