Bairnardo Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 But they will be less busy when the same number of people are dispersed across a greater number of spaces and over a larger radius though. The wider that allowable travel radius, the more dispersed that they can be. The onus is on the government to have a joined-up set of policies that both gives people scope to both enjoy their free time for the first time in fucking months as well as the ability to exercise some common sense into the bargain.Toilet usage seems to me to be the hurdle that joined up thinking was unable to clear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 55 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: You don't see how your stance on these two points may be slightly contradictory? Please explain. You don't see the difference between a union with England and a union with the EU? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds are Forever Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Am Featha *****h Nan Clach said: It would cause a lower level of compliance across the country. 'If it's ok for *insert council name* that's 5 minutes away, it's good enough for me' I do think the islands are a different case though. Regional lockdowns, or at least regional 'measures' will be a part of dealing with this virus in the long term, just as they are in other countries. It is never going to go away totally, so we may end up with small, probably seasonal, flare ups. Ideally a track and trace system that works would avoid this, but if we ended up with an outbreak in say Aberdeen next year, are we going to shutdown an entire country? No, we'll probably introduce measures for 2-3 weeks in that area - ban non-essential travel to and from that area and shut the schools, and hope that deals with it. If it doesn't then we may have to use a national measure. That is a perfectly sensible solution and the vast majority of people would abide. With the benefit of hindsight (although I thought this weeks ago) the idea that people in Benbecula have had to live under the same restrictions as people in Glasgow through this is crazy. It's crucial that looking forward we have clear and practical methods of putting in place regional measures. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 57 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: Yes, but permanent damage will be done to many individuals's finances and livelihoods. Which will have a knock-on effect on health outcomes. My point is, lots of different people are looking out for what they perceive as what's in their interests and aren't as bothered about how it effects others. This isn't something unique to the young so let's not pretend otherwise. Agreed, but I don't see how joining in a huge gathering to get pished is in anyone's self interest. Of course self interest is important but hopefully this (my) generation properly gets away from the Thatcherism of "I'm Alright, Jack" less of it in Scotland but still holds us back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 lol no we don't. Completely agree - go beyond the central belt and the public transport options are bloody awful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tout P'ti FC Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 "Non-stop micturation" - he has a way with words. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: 41 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: lol no we don't. Completely agree - go beyond the central belt and the public transport options are bloody awful. Parts of Glasgow have almost zero public transport. Once the Tories deregulated the bus service that was it goosed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Saw this earlier.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 26 minutes ago, Wee Willie said: Please explain. You don't see the difference between a union with England and a union with the EU? Given that I've said I was currently in favour of independence (and being in the EU) I clearly do. You seem to be of the opinion that it would be absolutely impossible for the political landscape of the UK to ever change to allow Scotland to be an equal partner as it has a small percentage of the population, yet this is exactly what it would have in the EU. My point is simply that, however unlikely it might appear right now, should that shift happen then it is a choice that needs to be given serious consideration ahead of your "Independence at any cost" mantra. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Orton Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, Le Tout P'ti FC said: "Non-stop micturation" - he has a way with words. How apt, sounds like the majority of his recent books. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, Tutankhamen said: Parts of Glasgow have almost zero public transport. Once the Tories deregulated the bus service that was it goosed. Which parts? -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Billy Jean King said: 4 hours ago, Mr. Alli said: Ah, yes. Thousands of people only congregated in Kelvingrove as they feared repercussion of going by the 5 mile from home part of the lockdown. Troon and Prestwick were similar yesterday, mobbed but without the "takeaway pint" option as consumption of alcohol in public spaces has been banned by the draconian SAC for years and the police have always taken great delight in enforcing that particular bye law. yip same at Girvan. The parks and beach was busy. The snack bar and chippy were mobbed with motorbike guys. I got chatting to two of them who’d came from Stranraer (30 miles away). Outside the snack bar there was a group of about 20 of them and social distancing wasn’t going on. From day 1 they’ve flouted it. Maybe the leather gear repels covid, who knows 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefybake Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: yip same at Girvan. The parks and beach was busy. The snack bar and chippy were mobbed with motorbike guys. I got chatting to two of them who’d came from Stranraer (30 miles away). Outside the snack bar there was a group of about 20 of them and social distancing wasn’t going on. From day 1 they’ve flouted it. Maybe the leather gear repels covid, who knows Didn't repel you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: yip same at Girvan. The parks and beach was busy. The snack bar and chippy were mobbed with motorbike guys. I got chatting to two of them who’d came from Stranraer (30 miles away). Outside the snack bar there was a group of about 20 of them and social distancing wasn’t going on. From day 1 they’ve flouted it. Maybe the leather gear repels covid, who knows 13 minutes ago, beefybake said: Didn't repel you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 44 minutes ago, Shandon Par said: Saw this earlier.. I thought it was the Labour Party that got the NHS gig going. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, beefybake said: Didn't repel you. There is something quite funny about people turning up to places and complaining how busy it is. How dare they do the same things we are doing! People's choices are very limited in terms of what they can actually go out and do so it shouldn't be any great surprise until more opens up. In the meantime, we all have a choice - if you're not comfortable, stay inside or go elsewhere. Edited June 21, 2020 by Michael W 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, Michael W said: There is something quite funny about people turning up to places and complaining how busy it is. How dare they do the same things we are doing! People's choices are very limited in terms of what they can actually go out and do so it shouldn't be any great surprise until more opens up. In the meantime, we all have a choice - if you're not comfortable, stay inside or go elsewhere. I wasnt complaining, just stating how it was. Girvan is on my doorstep (I can cycle to it in 20 mins) so I wasn’t “turning up” there. As I’ve stated before I actually find it so much better to see the roads and beachs/parks busier than when lockdown began and it was so empty and eery. I just object to there being no public toilets open and seeing folk peeing against the snack bar wall 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 I was at Bruntsfield Links yesterday. The toilets are still closed, so instead the wall of the building was being used by huge numbers of people. There was actual piles of human shite the likes of which I haven’t seen since T in the Park. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Think nowadays most places in Scotland have banned drinking in the street, all the built up areas certainly have 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Marshmallo said: Which parts? The 8 alone probably covers every street in Glasgow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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