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33 minutes ago, madwullie said:

TBF the 'revellers' in kelvingrove didn't look from the videos I saw to be likely to be doing that instead of going somewhere a bit quieter, a bit further away. 

If anything they mostly looked like horned up teenagers who would struggle to be old enough to drive and would be there specifically because it would be packed, or west end ecto casualties finishing off last nights night out

If it keeps the fuckers away from Troon beach then let them battle on.

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7 minutes ago, Musketeer Gripweed said:

What would these kids be doing right now, on a summers night like this had we not been under these restrictions?

Probably drinking Dragon Soop on Ayr beach

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Just now, Miguel Sanchez said:

Going to bed, they've got school in the morning. 

It's the last day tomorrow, they'd be looking out their Cluedo.

The real answer is, they would be doing no harm, just like they are tonight. It's totally different to taking a Jolly Boys Outing to the south coast and going to the beach, in my opinion anyway.

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44 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said:

After the positives news about restrictions easing and normal life slowly resuming yesterday. Today the media are back to scaremongering and trying to put the fear back into people. During the news there was a report about Bournemouth beach being heaving and it a “major incident”, Kelvingrove Park cleared by police and also how Europe has suffered the biggest jump in new cases for months. The media fcking love “bad” news regarding Covid 

Aye, if it's not mentioned it hasn't really happened.

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48 minutes ago, virginton said:

Erm yes, because teenagers from Glasgow never leave the city in their droves on a normal summer's day. It's that big park in the middle of an essentially landlocked bowl of a city that they're all clamouring for.

 

prior to lockdown, KG was mobbed with folks and their carry outs on most warm summer evenings. 

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1 minute ago, D.A.F.C said:
16 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said:
Here’s a fun wee game for you. Type any combination of 3 numbers into Google followed by “new cases”. Amazing emoji849.png

Ha, that's messed up

It is! A good way to pass your time if you’re an insomniac to go through every number! 

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27 minutes ago, KingRocketman II said:

prior to lockdown, KG was mobbed with folks and their carry outs on most warm summer evenings. 

It wasn't 'mobbed' to the point where the police closed the entire park - largely because plenty of other places across the country were visited by people from the same area instead. More places to go = greater scope for distancing, it's really that straightforward here.

It's hard to conceive of what the SG and Police Scotland expected would happen in the event of one of the hottest days ever in the country, while huge chunks of the population and all weans were free during the day and the literal official instruction to only socialise outdoors and within a rough five mile radius. If their precious social distancing policy failed then it was 99.9% down to their short-sighted and self-defeating regulations.

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prior to lockdown, KG was mobbed with folks and their carry outs on most warm summer evenings. 
Yip it's just as it would be on a warm summer's night. All this talk of it being mobbed because those there (mostly schoolkids) can't travel more than 5 miles have been out in the sun too long. Utter drivel !
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1 minute ago, Billy Jean King said:
36 minutes ago, KingRocketman II said:
prior to lockdown, KG was mobbed with folks and their carry outs on most warm summer evenings. 

Yip it's just as it would be on a warm summer's night. All this talk of it being mobbed because those there (mostly schoolkids) can't travel more than 5 miles have been out in the sun too long. Utter drivel !

If it was just as busy as on a summer's night previously then where did all the scheme goblins who typically rock up at their natural second home of Ayrshire go instead for the day? Pretty sure that they didn't just sit in the house because of the big bad virus. 

 

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Last day of school tomorrow(?) , every c**t being locked in the house for 3 months, roasting hot day, some lockdown restrictions still in place. A perfect storm of conditions that meant the park was busy as f**k and the police turned up to tell them to gtf. Not really important that they couldn't fire up to Balloch in the cars most of them aren't old enough to drive yet. Probably didn't help that the initial weather forecast today was for it to be thunder storms from late afternoon meaning a trip further away is a bit less tempting 

Not even really sure why this is an argument. I mean if the scheme goblins really wanted to go to Troon, do you think Scottish govt lockdown guidance saying don't go outwith roughly 5 miles of your home is going to stop them? I assume the trains are still running? 

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8 hours ago, madwullie said:

Last day of school tomorrow(?) , every c**t being locked in the house for 3 months, roasting hot day, some lockdown restrictions still in place. A perfect storm of conditions that meant the park was busy as f**k and the police turned up to tell them to gtf. Not really important that they couldn't fire up to Balloch in the cars most of them aren't old enough to drive yet. Probably didn't help that the initial weather forecast today was for it to be thunder storms from late afternoon meaning a trip further away is a bit less tempting 

Not even really sure why this is an argument. I mean if the scheme goblins really wanted to go to Troon, do you think Scottish govt lockdown guidance saying don't go outwith roughly 5 miles of your home is going to stop them? I assume the trains are still running? 

BTP were patrolling trains and major stations - including Kilwinning junction - to turn back larger groups at the start of the month and there's no reason why they wouldn't be doing the same now.

I'm not sure how you propose to just abandon the basic laws of supply and demand here. The demand for outdoor space yesterday was probably about the highest it could ever possibly be - far higher than the similar hot spell two years ago when people were at school/work for much of the day. At the same time, the government's own travel restrictions reduced the practical supply of public space, thereby further promoting typical hotspots like Kelvingrove Park to become the obvious choice for too many people. There's no getting round the conclusion that KP was significantly busier than its usual peak unless you think that half of Glasgow just decided to sit in their roasting houses all day which yeah quite clearly didn't happen.

The cause of crowding then is quite clear. The real question left unanswered is why the SG, the local authorities and the local police didn't do a better job of getting ahead of this issue through a combination of i) highlighting crowding risk at KP via social media and pointing people to larger and less congested spaces around the city and ii) actually patrolling the park and its entrance points to stop large groups from assembling in the first place. A child could have seen from the start of this week that there would have been an issue there yesterday, so the polis rocking up late in the day to close the entire area before the SG harrumphs about it is not a credible response at all.

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