effeffsee_the2nd Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Agreed. Imagine in April you were told that by mid August we'll have went six weeks with one death, BUT you still can't attend a football match (even with limited numbers), nor go to the gym. Somewhere along the line she's going have to press the button on it and let us do these things. If the numbers we have now aren't good enough, then when?At a guess I’d say they want the dust to settle from the schools going back before the rest of us get more freedom. Too many cases and c***s might end up greetin for schools to be closed again 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Building seven billion hot robot nurses could be a challenge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: At a guess I’d say they want the dust to settle from the schools going back before the rest of us get more freedom. Too many cases and c***s might end up greetin for schools to be closed again That's probably the case. But with the end of furlough looming, NS' hand will eventually be forced to some degree. I thought there would be mileage in opening up steadily, but the way it's going it going to end up with a fair number of things all at one time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 That's probably the case. But with the end of furlough looming, NS' hand will eventually be forced to some degree. I thought there would be mileage in opening up steadily, but the way it's going it going to end up with a fair number of things all at one time.Of course she'll have to open up eventually. It's not like she wants to keep things closed.It's a horrible balance to find, and quite clearly our govt are playing it very safe. As frustrating as that is, my view is that she's doing the right thing now.Hopefully the dates given already will be confirmed on Thursday, and in 3 weeks time we'll get to stage 4. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_MFC Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Wean at a primary school in Renfrewshire positive.We are off to the races for the shut the schools types now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 I went to primary school .. could have been me 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: I went to primary school .. could have been me ^^^left full time education age 12. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 17, 2020 Author Share Posted August 17, 2020 Iona Bar in Leith gets it off sales license pulled for breaching regulations https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/people/leith-pub-stripped-takeaway-alcohol-licence-due-anti-social-behaviour-during-covid-19-lockdown-2945023A few years ago they lost their license for opening early to show an Edinburgh derby in a Sunday at 12noon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: All these lads whining about nightclubs and gyms not opening up fast enough would be singing a different tune if it was acne spreading like wildfire. Masks on as soon as they were out of their jim jams. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH33 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 59 minutes ago, MP_MFC said: Wean at a primary school in Renfrewshire positive. We are off to the races for the shut the schools types now. Toldholm. Had a cuppa with my pal, whose kids go there, this morning. Could be me next! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Wean at a primary school in Renfrewshire positive.We are off to the races for the shut the schools types now. The ones demanding the schools shut will be the same ones who were in uproar when the govt said not to expect them back this year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 The SG will close down just about everything else on no valid grounds whatsoever and tip the economy into another double digit plunge before it dares piss off self-entitled parents who want their state childcare running. They'll just be crossing their fingers for some minor breach of rules by a footballer or a minor pub-linked cluster to emerge to keep deflecting away attention. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 (edited) Meanwhile in Wuhan. Sturgeon out. President G in . Edited August 17, 2020 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Folk not realising that if the schools shut again the baws burst then naw? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engelbert_humperdink Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 4 hours ago, welshbairn said: All these lads whining about nightclubs and gyms not opening up fast enough would be singing a different tune if it was acne spreading like wildfire. Masks on as soon as they were out of their jim jams. Swing and a miss 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Folk not realising that if the schools shut again the baws burst then naw? As I've said before the SG have scared people into not understanding the relative risk per age band of Covid-19, the effectiveness of PCR testing, particularly in asymptomatic people, and into believing that all cases are dangerous and deadly. They now want people to forget about all of that, but for school age children only. That won't wash. They have made a complete mess of the messaging throughout, and, however hard they try to focus all the blame on the hospitality sector, it will come back to bite them on the arse with schools. Their credibility is evaporating with each daily briefing. Edited August 17, 2020 by Todd_is_God 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have some faith in Magic Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 On 13/08/2020 at 11:05, effeffsee_the2nd said: The pubs have taken an early lead which is exactly what the schools wanted to avoid at this stage but if they continue to keep it tight as the managers said pre match then I see them getting back into the this before the break, The pubs getting an early booking might see them take a more defensive approach now as they can't afford too many suspensions as the season drags on. hard one to call at the moment, whether or not the pundits view of "you don't spread with kids " line will come back to haunt them remains to be seen. https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/perth-kinross/1517137/perth-and-kinross-school-children-test-positive-for-coronavirus/amp/?__twitter_impression=true In a training ground bust up the Inexperienced but enthusiastic primary school kids have been taken out with a niggly virus that keeps not only them but their coaches out the game for a couple of weeks. Pubs seem to have quietly gone about their business at the weekend, avoiding controversy. The manager banning music in the dressing room may or may not have been a factor. Only time will tell Clive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/perth-kinross/1517137/perth-and-kinross-school-children-test-positive-for-coronavirus/amp/?__twitter_impression=true In a training ground bust up the Inexperienced but enthusiastic primary school kids have been taken out with a niggly virus that keeps not only them but their coaches out the game for a couple of weeks. Pubs seem to have quietly gone about their business at the weekend, avoiding controversy. The manager banning music in the dressing room may or may not have been a factor. Only time will tell Clive. I used to go to oakbank, it could’ve been me. But in all seriousness it’s a bit concerning for me, my mum and dad live 2 minutes away from there so hopefully it’s not one of their neighbours. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 9 hours ago, Bairnardo said: Folk not realising that if the schools shut again the baws burst then naw? What "baw"? -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 10 hours ago, virginton said: The SG will close down just about everything else on no valid grounds whatsoever and tip the economy into another double digit plunge before it dares piss off self-entitled parents who want their state childcare running. They'll just be crossing their fingers for some minor breach of rules by a footballer or a minor pub-linked cluster to emerge to keep deflecting away attention. We're a month and a half away from the Furlough scheme winding up. There will be little opportunity of shutting down anything at that point. Even temporarily shutting down local areas is going to become difficult without tipping businesses into the void. With that in mind, it's particularly important to have schools back and running now. Even if you are of the opinion that parents are self entitled and that far from bothering to adequately educate the next generation, children should be mulched down into protein shakes to provide sustenance for Graduates in the Humanties, there is a simple practical issue associated with the economy, if there isn't a full time education system running. The best the SG can hope for is to try and push the daily infection rates back down a bit, and act to constrain clusters when they are still in single digits, and try and avoid a super spreading event like in Grampian which necessitated a massive backwards step to lockdown. They are currently trying to get testing up to 65,000 a day, and to widen access, well and good. Maybe that means mandatory sample testing at schools on a periodic basis. Maybe masks for everyone in schools (or football grounds) becomes mandatory on a statutory basis. They've tried the honours system and it's been a mixed bag. In order to get everything open on a sustainable basis, drive up consumer demand and limit the spread of the virus to vulnerable groups they will likely have to put a lot more restrictive measures into law, unless they get a working vaccine in the next month or two. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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