invergowrie arab Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 35 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: This "To save Christmas!" stuff like we are in a Pixar film is wild. Even if it works, why are we signing up for weeks of restrictions with businesses being decimated to save a single day which just happens to have a different name than others? Save Black Friday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Christmas is celebrated by millions of folk who are not Christians. I am one of them. Theres an oxymoron there. Why is it a big deal if it centres around a religious festival that you admittedly don’t identify with the religion? Plenty other people have had to sacrifice festivals like Eid as mentioned before, people who actually have deep connections to their faith and its adherence, what makes Christians the exception? Sorry but am I f**k going to be happy putting up with a total lock down so a bunch of facebook maws can have a party with their pals on christmas day just like theyve been doing breaking the rules thinking theyre some kind of special exception. Shower of absolute shite. All to ‘save’ a day that apparently no one gives a f**k about anyway. f**k christmas. Edited November 16, 2020 by Inanimate Carbon Rod 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladdin Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Would much rather keep gyms open over the next month. Xmas is a load of shite anyway.Can't believe they aren't looking at a blended model for schools yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, DAFC. said: I'm positive Eid was around same time those right-wing lunatics were doing conga lines down in England to celebrate VE day. Yet Muslims were told there would be harsh punishments if they dared venture out. It was around the end May - the twenty-somethingth. Not only almost-maximum fasting hours, but no feast to celebrate the end of ramadan. Sucks to have imaginary friends with arbitrary demands. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Would much rather keep gyms open over the next month. Xmas is a load of shite anyway.Can't believe they aren't looking at a blended model for schools yet.They did until someone opened Gordon Browns coffin up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Can you imagine the meltdown on Facebook from the full time mummies who's who life from September onward revolves around telling everyone they've bought and wrapped all their presents already, their little darlings are so excited to see what Santa brings them, watch loads of Christmas films, see their grannies on Christmas morning etc if there's a lockdown on the Christmas day. You can go and see your family any time you like, why would it be the end of the world if you couldn't see them on 1 specific day, once in their lifetime? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Christmas day is my favourite day of the year btw but this is purely being done as a vote winner amongst specific demographics. Largely the same demographic who cried about blended learning, believe students are one single entity who are living debauched lifestyles and blame "scum" for case numbers remaining steadfast. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szamo's_Ammo Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 minute ago, TheScarf said: Can you imagine the meltdown on Facebook from the full time mummies who's who life from September onward revolves around telling everyone they've bought and wrapped all their presents already, their little darlings are so excited to see what Santa brings them, watch loads of Christmas films, see their grannies on Christmas morning etc if there's a lockdown on the Christmas day. On the plus side just think of the sentimental and poignant memes they can share over the festive period, now more than ever. Extra likes if they can share a picture holding grannies hand in the care home. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Theres an oxymoron there. Why is it a big deal if it centres around a religious festival that you admittedly don’t identify with the religion? Plenty other people have had to sacrifice festivals like Eid as mentioned before, people who actually have deep connections to their faith and its adherence, what makes Christians the exception? Sorry but am I f**k going to be happy putting up with a total lock down so a bunch of facebook maws can have a party with their pals on christmas day just like theyve been doing breaking the rules thinking theyre some kind of special exception. Shower of absolute shite. It's absolutely farcical - there's no concerted campaign to open the churches and chapels, or even demands to be able to attend carol concerts. Just, "let us go shopping and get pissed!" What Christmas means now is apparently spending enough to get you into sufficient debt that you daren't upset your employer for the next year as you try to pay down your credit cards. I fucking hate people. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 It's absolutely farcical - there's no concerted campaign to open the churches and chapels, or even demands to be able to attend carol concerts. Just, "let us go shopping and get pissed!" What Christmas means now is apparently spending enough to get you into sufficient debt that you daren't upset your employer for the next year as you try to pay down your credit cards. I fucking hate people.That sums of modern Christmas but you forgot that you must spunk hunners on “ accas”f**k Christmas it’s cancelled, f**k Facebook f**k john lewis f**k sky f**k disney f**k ladbrokes f**k the p.. oppsie almost got carried away there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 46 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: ICYMI, Eid was absolutely fúcked this year - didn't get all that much coverage. About 12 hours notice that no family meeting was allowed iirc. Crickets 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: That sums of modern Christmas but you forgot that you must spunk hunners on “ accas” f**k Christmas it’s cancelled, f**k Facebook f**k john lewis f**k sky f**k disney f**k ladbrokes f**k the p.. oppsie almost got carried away there A few well-picked doubles and trixies normally ease the financial pain chez WRK, but this crowd-free shite has really fucked up my betting mojo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 No moderna vaccines in the UK till easter ish by the sounds of it... Cant see how that matters though really if we have 5 million initial Pfizer to be getting on with plus however many Oxford ones which presumably are sat ready to go. Still good news none the less. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 On 10/11/2020 at 12:14, superbigal said: Today is review date so i thought it was worthwhile having a look at how all the Councils are performing in relation to the tier they are in. Gone with the overall change in the last 8 days of released Data, which i believe is roughly the date the tiers were proposed. So started with period 23rd Oct to 29th October figures and then how they now appear 31st Oct to Nov 6th the most recent data. These are cases per 100K population in the previous 7 days. A week on let's have a look at progress. Overall cases per 100K were 154 when I did this post last Tuesday. Figures were up to 7th November. 6 Days later and figures to 13th November show a decrease to 141.5 or 8.12% Suggest R is now between 0.95 & 1.00 I now have the last 14 days of Data for each Council. Start with the tier 3 Councils and move down to Tier 1 My comments in brackets. Bold if significant City Of Edinburgh Tier 3 86.3 to 86.9 Increase 0.69% (Reversed slight downward trend to overall increase 0.69%. So Tier 3 is Correct) Clackmannanshire Tier 3 131.9 to 99.0 Decrease 24.94% (actually an increase in cases since last week.. Tier 3 for now.) Dundee City Tier 3 176.8 to 138.0 Decrease 21.95% (Same comments as Clack an increase in last week Stay tier 3) East Ayrshire Tier 3 220.5 to 172.1 Decrease 21.95% (A tiny further decrease since last weeks good work. Unlucky if they now get punted to Tier 4) East Dunbartonshire Tier 3 222.8 to 224.6 Increase 0.48% (Another small rise So Tier 3 no effect must enter Tier 4) East Lothian Tier 3 97.1 to 60.7 Decrease 37.48% (Sustained decreases and really should get promoted to Tier 2) East Renfrewshire Tier 3 226.1 to 197.8 Decrease 12.51% I (After last weeks scathing comments a good week. Unlucky to have your best week and then get punted into tier 4) Falkirk Tier 3 118.7 to 88.3 Decrease 25.61% (Actually a bad week in Falkirk So Tier 3 has to stay) Glasgow City Tier 3 299.5 to 275.6 Decrease 7.97% (1st time in weeks they are actually behaving but clearly will still get punted to Tier 4) Inverclyde Tier 3 72.0 to 101.5 Increase 40.97% (Reversed much of last weeks huge rises so will be mightily unfortunate to leave tier 3) Midlothian Tier 3 97.3 to 58.4 Decrease 39.97% ( These guys are really following the rules and should get promotion soon to Tier 2 ) North Ayrshire Tier 3 178.1 to 139.5 Decrease 21.67% (Some people on West side of country are behaving. Continuing to drop. Tier 4 would be a shocker and have little justification.) North Lanarkshire Tier 3 280 to 237.6 Decrease 15.14% (1st time in weeks they are actually behaving but clearly will still get punted to Tier 4) Renfrewshire Tier 3 231.2 to 241.8 Increase 4.58% (Again their 1st actual decent week but too little too late. Tier 4 is a must) South Ayrshire Tier 3 151.9 to 159.0 Increase 4.67% (Actually also a very good week but may be too late Could cling on to Tier 3) South Lanarkshire Tier 3 317.6 to 229.3 Decrease 27.80% (A very good fortnight. Still very high number though. Tier 4 tomorrow will still take a bit of explaining) Stirling Tier 3 77.5 to 167.7 Increase 116.39% (What is going on in Stirling ? Hurtling towards obvious Tier 4 out of nowhere!!) West Dunbartonshire Tier 3 208 to 181.0 decrease 12.98%% (Another with a good week so why tier 4 tomorrow would need explained) West Lothian Tier 3 181.3 to 158.4 Decrease 12.63% (Decent week but clearly staying Tier 3) Fife Tier 2 moved to Tier 3 81.9 to 143 Increase 74.60% (Fife really needs to screw the nut or it could end up in Tier 4) Perth & Kinross Tier 2 moved to Tier 3 75.0 to 88.8 Increase 18.40% (Tier 3 is having an effect decent week) Angus Tier 2 moved to Tier 3 51.6 to 84.3 Increase 63.37% (Tier 3 had an impact but not turned the tide yet) Aberdeen City Tier 2, 44.6 to 55.5 Increase 24.43% (Bad week and more chance of sliding to tier 3 than 1. But then again "They can Boogie") Aberdeenshire Tier 2 29.5 to 53.2 Increase 80.33 % (Similar to the city a real bad week and heading to wrong tier) Argyll & Bute Tier 2 57.1 to 31.4 Decrease 45.00% (Another good week and surely go Tier 1) Dumfries & Galloway Tier 2 62.5 to 51.1 Decrease 18.24% (Good week another similar needed for Tier 1) Borders Tier 2 39.8 to 61.5 Increase 54.52% (moaned they were in tier 2 but now rightly so) Highland Tier 1 19.9 to 20.4 Increase 2.51% (No change Tier 1) Moray Tier 1 14.6 to 32.4 Increase 121.92% (Still tiny number but may be pushed to tier 2 if continues) Na h-Eileanan Siar Tier 1 3.7 to 22.5 (Basically was 1 case and now 6 Tier 1 no problem) Orkney Tier 1 9.0 to 4.5 (Basically was 2 cases and now 1. Get them in Tier 0) Shetlands Tier 1 8.7 to 0.0 (Was 2 cases and now 0 cases. Get them in Tier 0) 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Christmas Day is the worst part of the Christmas period. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Ron Aldo said: More vaccine news. 95% less than Madonna's! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Theres an oxymoron there. Why is it a big deal if it centres around a religious festival that you admittedly don’t identify with the religion? Plenty other people have had to sacrifice festivals like Eid as mentioned before, people who actually have deep connections to their faith and its adherence, what makes Christians the exception? Sorry but am I f**k going to be happy putting up with a total lock down so a bunch of facebook maws can have a party with their pals on christmas day just like theyve been doing breaking the rules thinking theyre some kind of special exception. Shower of absolute shite. All to ‘save’ a day that apparently no one gives a f**k about anyway. f**k christmas. Are you a Christian? Do you normally celebrate Christmas? Will you and your family miss celebrating it if you can’t? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, superbigal said: A week on let's have a look at progress. Overall cases per 100K were 154 when I did this post last Tuesday. Figures were up to 7th November. 6 Days later and figures to 13th November show a decrease to 141.5 or 8.12% Suggest R is now between 0.95 & 1.00 I now have the last 14 days of Data for each Council. Start with the tier 3 Councils and move down to Tier 1 My comments in brackets. Bold if significant City Of Edinburgh Tier 3 86.3 to 86.9 Increase 0.69% (Reversed slight downward trend to overall increase 0.69%. So Tier 3 is Correct) Clackmannanshire Tier 3 131.9 to 99.0 Decrease 24.94% (actually an increase in cases since last week.. Tier 3 for now.) Dundee City Tier 3 176.8 to 138.0 Decrease 21.95% (Same comments as Clack an increase in last week Stay tier 3) East Ayrshire Tier 3 220.5 to 172.1 Decrease 21.95% (A tiny further decrease since last weeks good work. Unlucky if they now get punted to Tier 4) East Dunbartonshire Tier 3 222.8 to 224.6 Increase 0.48% (Another small rise So Tier 3 no effect must enter Tier 4) East Lothian Tier 3 97.1 to 60.7 Decrease 37.48% (Sustained decreases and really should get promoted to Tier 2) East Renfrewshire Tier 3 226.1 to 197.8 Decrease 12.51% I (After last weeks scathing comments a good week. Unlucky to have your best week and then get punted into tier 4) Falkirk Tier 3 118.7 to 88.3 Decrease 25.61% (Actually a bad week in Falkirk So Tier 3 has to stay) Glasgow City Tier 3 299.5 to 275.6 Decrease 7.97% (1st time in weeks they are actually behaving but clearly will still get punted to Tier 4) Inverclyde Tier 3 72.0 to 101.5 Increase 40.97% (Reversed much of last weeks huge rises so will be mightily unfortunate to leave tier 3) Midlothian Tier 3 97.3 to 58.4 Decrease 39.97% ( These guys are really following the rules and should get promotion soon to Tier 2 ) North Ayrshire Tier 3 178.1 to 139.5 Decrease 21.67% (Some people on West side of country are behaving. Continuing to drop. Tier 4 would be a shocker and have little justification.) North Lanarkshire Tier 3 280 to 237.6 Decrease 15.14% (1st time in weeks they are actually behaving but clearly will still get punted to Tier 4) Renfrewshire Tier 3 231.2 to 241.8 Increase 4.58% (Again their 1st actual decent week but too little too late. Tier 4 is a must) South Ayrshire Tier 3 151.9 to 159.0 Increase 4.67% (Actually also a very good week but may be too late Could cling on to Tier 3) South Lanarkshire Tier 3 317.6 to 229.3 Decrease 27.80% (A very good fortnight. Still very high number though. Tier 4 tomorrow will still take a bit of explaining) Stirling Tier 3 77.5 to 167.7 Increase 116.39% (What is going on in Stirling ? Hurtling towards obvious Tier 4 out of nowhere!!) West Dunbartonshire Tier 3 208 to 181.0 decrease 12.98%% (Another with a good week so why tier 4 tomorrow would need explained) West Lothian Tier 3 181.3 to 158.4 Decrease 12.63% (Decent week but clearly staying Tier 3) Fife Tier 2 moved to Tier 3 81.9 to 143 Increase 74.60% (Fife really needs to screw the nut or it could end up in Tier 4) Perth & Kinross Tier 2 moved to Tier 3 75.0 to 88.8 Increase 18.40% (Tier 3 is having an effect decent week) Angus Tier 2 moved to Tier 3 51.6 to 84.3 Increase 63.37% (Tier 3 had an impact but not turned the tide yet) Aberdeen City Tier 2, 44.6 to 55.5 Increase 24.43% (Bad week and more chance of sliding to tier 3 than 1. But then again "They can Boogie") Aberdeenshire Tier 2 29.5 to 53.2 Increase 80.33 % (Similar to the city a real bad week and heading to wrong tier) Argyll & Bute Tier 2 57.1 to 31.4 Decrease 45.00% (Another good week and surely go Tier 1) Dumfries & Galloway Tier 2 62.5 to 51.1 Decrease 18.24% (Good week another similar needed for Tier 1) Borders Tier 2 39.8 to 61.5 Increase 54.52% (moaned they were in tier 2 but now rightly so) Highland Tier 1 19.9 to 20.4 Increase 2.51% (No change Tier 1) Moray Tier 1 14.6 to 32.4 Increase 121.92% (Still tiny number but may be pushed to tier 2 if continues) Na h-Eileanan Siar Tier 1 3.7 to 22.5 (Basically was 1 case and now 6 Tier 1 no problem) Orkney Tier 1 9.0 to 4.5 (Basically was 2 cases and now 1. Get them in Tier 0) Shetlands Tier 1 8.7 to 0.0 (Was 2 cases and now 0 cases. Get them in Tier 0) Without getting too technical it looks to me like the NE had it all under control but the swell in Glasgow/Lanarks creates a wave that travels very slowly outwards and the rates of infection, if left unchallenged, simply rise to a level of uniformity across the country after a number of weeks. Or, another way, nuanced restrictions make f**k all difference. Think King Canute. And Stirling I think is a bit of an outlier due to a care home in Bannockburn with 45 cases among staff and residents Edited November 16, 2020 by alta-pete 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 8 hours ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: You're a better man than me, then. I wish him, and indeed every Tory, the best that Karma has to offer. To paraphrase Frankie Boyle "The Tory party have contingency plans in place in case he doesn't pull through. I've also made contingency plans. I've bought fireworks." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Are you a Christian? Do you normally celebrate Christmas? Will you and your family miss celebrating it if you can’t? No im an atheist. I respect my family’s wishes and partake in their customary annual celebration of the birth of a child 2020 years ago in a barn in the middle east born to a ‘virgin’ teenage mother most years but even my christian family members think its mental. However this year im working. Christmas is just Friday. No we wont miss celebrating it. This idea that many christian fundamentalists and facebook concerned types etc have that its worth locking down further, putting people out of jobs probably long term to allow a free for all on Christmas day that will quite likely put further strain on the NHS (who are having to plan for a ‘third wave’ now because of the talk of relaxing rules for Christmas) and adding to the fact a tier 4 lockdown will marginalise the most vulnerable in society even further. The whole idea doesnt seem very fucking christian to me? But hey its alright all the goblins and arseholes will be able to have unrestricted house parties and eat turkey with their mother in law. Edited November 16, 2020 by Inanimate Carbon Rod 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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