smpar Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Nearly two hours and still no word from Stormont. 'Kinell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: It's the UK, there will never be mass civil unrest ! In a worrying development tonight it looks like our position as the new world pariah will stop the vaccine supplies reaching the UK. This looks like an absolute clusterfuck brewing. Nah, medical supplies will be flown in no problem. Army and RAF will get involved if needed. Edited December 20, 2020 by D.A.F.C 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, madwullie said: More and more countries banning all travel from the uk. France not allowing any freight in for 48 hours. The world def seems to see this development as serious business, unless they're all providing cover for Johnston to rectify his 5 days of Christmas mistake We’re the new China but instead of a lockdown we have a bubble. What could go wrong? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 It's the UK, there will never be mass civil unrest ! In a worrying development tonight it looks like our position as the new world pariah will stop the vaccine supplies reaching the UK. This looks like an absolute clusterfuck brewing. Maybe for Pfizer but the AZ vaccine is due to be approved imminently and is made in the UK in much greater volumes than the deliveries we get from Pfizer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 With the closing of borders for the time being, I reckon I've enough toilet rolls to do me until April, if things don't improve I'll have to resort to buying Pars tops on eBay. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 The vaccine is definitely getting approved by Christmas Eve. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherchance Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 45 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: We are undoubtedly going to effectively be in full lock down for at least 4 months. I suspect no chance of anything close to normality for a year or more. Can’t see it being the case that the vaccines won’t work or that the rollout won’t proceed as planned - more chance of getting the disease in the meantime perhaps - but they’ll sort something out to get Pfizer over here and we can easily churn out Oxford domestically. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) If you produce scare stories about this new mutated strain of the virus, you can't be surprised at countries shutting their borders unless you are a genuine moron. France has gone a bit far banning unaccompanied freight as well, but I'd expect us to do the same and bar travel if needed (which we did with Denmark). The government has known about this strain since September, yet why were we only hearing these concerns in the last few days? Cynically it looks like a convenient excuse to "save face" with Christmas rules that the Government went ahead with anyway with The Science shaking its head and asking it be rethought. Edited December 20, 2020 by Michael W 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, Archie McSquackle said: 27 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: It's the UK, there will never be mass civil unrest ! In a worrying development tonight it looks like our position as the new world pariah will stop the vaccine supplies reaching the UK. This looks like an absolute clusterfuck brewing. Maybe for Pfizer but the AZ vaccine is due to be approved imminently and is made in the UK in much greater volumes than the deliveries we get from Pfizer. Not yet it's not, we have to get it from Belgium. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: Seems to be a fair bit of gossip on Twitter that the rest of Europe closing their borders with the UK has taken the Tories by surprise, with hints they were somehow embellishing how serious the new strain is. I am not sure I buy that story but it speaks to how poorly trusted the UK is just now. Might be enough to push the Tories down to 39% in the next opinion poll. The were pushing out of date data for the last English lockdown weren't they, and got caught? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, mizfit said: The vaccine is definitely getting approved by Christmas Eve. Liz to announce it at 3pm on Friday 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Bob Mahelp said: We are undoubtedly going to effectively be in full lock down for at least 4 months. I suspect no chance of anything close to normality for a year or more. I guess that depends on how vaccinations go. If roll-out goes as planned then those most likely to be hospitalised if they catch it will be protected, so by Summer/Q3 the risk of hospitals being overwhelmed should be lower. Of course it doesn't help the ports are now closed and the Pfizer vaccine comes from Belgium. As you say though, next couple of months seem pivotal now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 37 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: Seems to be a fair bit of gossip on Twitter that the rest of Europe closing their borders with the UK has taken the Tories by surprise, with hints they were somehow embellishing how serious the new strain is. I am not sure I buy that story but it speaks to how poorly trusted the UK is just now. Might be enough to push the Tories down to 39% in the next opinion poll. It could even mean they get a majority of 45 seats rather than 50. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 It's an absolute certainty that they realise how much they fucked up with the relaxation of restrictions for Christmas, and that they can't surely go much longer without admitting that schools are a massive driver, so they've embellished (to what degree is up for debate) the danger of this mutation to save face rather than admit they've fucked up. Hence why all the chat about how concerned they are about other countries closing travel - it's not something that even entered their heads. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 See if this resultsd in delays to vaccine deliveries, heads should be rolling for that. See if they have told porkies, folk should be going to jail 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: See if this resultsd in delays to vaccine deliveries, heads should be rolling for that. See if they have told porkies, folk should be going to jail There are countless examples of the government telling blatant lies. The response to that is England voting them in with an ever-increasing majority, and the WATP GSTQ FTP JIMMY CRANKIE brigade up here keeping us tethered to them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Just now, Gaz said: There are countless examples of the government telling blatant lies. The response to that is England voting them in with an ever-increasing majority, and the WATP GSTQ FTP JIMMY CRANKIE brigade up here keeping us tethered to them. I know. People who vote Tory are a mystery to me, but if they are found to be lying about this, and it results in delays to distribution of lifesaving vaccines surely there will be some sort of legal recourse to that? Fucking surely, even in Tory England they couldn't get away with the cost of lying over this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) Would other countries not have access to actual data before shutting borders with the not insignificant damage that would do to themselves (much more to us though) rather than just take the uk's word for it? Edit: I mean Saudi have stopped all international travel completely due to the strain found here (and Denmark and Australia). Are they likely to do that based on Johnson's word? Edited December 20, 2020 by madwullie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Not yet it's not, we have to get it from Belgium.Do you mean the Pfizer vaccine? I've been told the AZ vaccine is imminent (slight delay due to working out the best dosage), is made at several sites across the UK and the volume available will far outweigh Pfizer supplies. There are already millions of doses manufactured and waiting to be distributed. Any distribution issues with the Pfizer vaccine will hopefully just be a blip. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 33 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: I know. People who vote Tory are a mystery to me, but if they are found to be lying about this, and it results in delays to distribution of lifesaving vaccines surely there will be some sort of legal recourse to that? Fucking surely, even in Tory England they couldn't get away with the cost of lying over this? Nobody jailed the bankers and no-one will face the music for putting sub standard cladding on Grenfell Tower to save money 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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