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As someone living in London at the minute, I'm here to help.
Let me reassure you that, unless the Scottish population (worth noting, smaller and far less densely populated than London's population):
  • Spent the first three weeks of December packing themselves into pubs
  • Lied that their group all lived in the same household so they could sit indoors
  • Repeatedly left a crumb of a sausage roll on their plate so they could get pished for hours on end
  • In turn forgot about the basics of social distancing and wearing masks
  • Decided to carry on having their Christmas as planned even after we were put in Tier 4
...then you've got far, far less to be worried about than Londoners. You also smartly did your best to stop any of us escaping to Scotland and spreading the virus.
I get where your instincts of fear are coming from, but trust me, as someone who witnessed London f**k up first-hand, you will be very, very unlucky if Scotland ends up in a situation anything near as bad as London has. 17927068_JackSloshed.png.a1f76c785a69181027aa452d0c269998.png
Good news, I genuinely wasn't trying to be confrontational or winding up people. Its upsetting to see and the last time cases just went up everywhere after a while.
I remember seeing the fans at games and scenes from pubs etc so even though the new variant is more transmissible hopefully we will be better off.
Would sill like to see a tighter lockdown for a few weeks to drive it down further.
A few lives saved is worth it.
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1 minute ago, D.A.F.C said:

Good news, I genuinely wasn't trying to be confrontational or winding up people. Its upsetting to see and the last time cases just went up everywhere after a while.
I remember seeing the fans at games and scenes from pubs etc so even though the new variant is more transmissible hopefully we will be better off.
Would sill like to see a tighter lockdown for a few weeks to drive it down further.
A few lives saved is worth it.

Just want to clarify that, while my last post was true and Londoners could definitely have been a bit more responsible:

It still doesn't shift the blame for the English government, who brought us out of lockdown and into Tier 2 for no other reason than to try and save the pre-Christmas economy.

If people get told that it's safe for them to go out and socialise with their friends + go Christmas shopping + use public transport, guess what? They're going to go and do it.

Boris has blood on his hands yet again etc.

Just don't want people thinking that I'm trying to pass it all off onto personal responsibility like some mad libertarian. :lol:

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A: 'This is my ticket from Edinburgh Uni to the big time baby!'
Absolutely. Advisors like her, that hardly anyone had heard of before, have had more media exposure than they could have possibly hoped for. I said before that it sounds cynical but I think that people like her are enjoying the limelight and are starting to milk it.

Wish the media would also stop reporting these statements as decided policy as well. I know it gets clicks and views but she's just an advisor, that's all. Her employer is Edinburgh Uni and not the Scottish Govt; Her opinion should only be one amongst many others that actual policy should be considering.
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1 hour ago, GordonS said:

Did she say the school was closing? Because pretty much all secondary, a very large number of primary schools and all special schools are staying open.

Most schools are open in some form. One school in glasgow has 73% of its roll classed as vulnerable,  which is also a key to a place. There was a pay wall article on Glasgow times.

Then you’ve also got SEN schools where again all kids are in vulnerable category so there’s been wrangling over getting provision in place.

There’s no ideal answer, I have two days as I work in council nursery albeit 3 hrs a Day. I’ll do one other day at work when at dads. In fairness I’ve been really unwell mentally for six weeks so there’s element vulnerability too.

There’s no perfect way doing it to get vulnerable protected and key worker kids covered.

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4 minutes ago, RH33 said:

Most schools are open in some form. One school in glasgow has 73% of its roll classed as vulnerable,  which is also a key to a place. There was a pay wall article on Glasgow times.

Then you’ve also got SEN schools where again all kids are in vulnerable category so there’s been wrangling over getting provision in place.

There’s no ideal answer, I have two days as I work in council nursery albeit 3 hrs a Day. I’ll do one other day at work when at dads. In fairness I’ve been really unwell mentally for six weeks so there’s element vulnerability too.

There’s no perfect way doing it to get vulnerable protected and key worker kids covered.

Take care of yourself bud, it gets better.

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2 hours ago, No_Problemo said:

https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/coronavirus/2021/01/devi-sridhar-uk-needs-zero-covid-strategy-prevent-endless-lockdowns
 

Genuinely struggling to get my head round this from Sridhar. 
 

Reading between the lines, lockdown until summer and then gradually ease but allowing no foreign travel whatsoever. 
 

1) What is her end game, do we just go on like that for eternity. 
2) She also mentions not having another winter like this one. Why would we if the vulnerable population are vaccinated. (Yes, we might need yearly vaccines in terms of new strains

3) Surely in her vision there will be endless lockdowns as every time there are flare ups there will be local lockdowns. 
 

My brain simply can’t compute what she is thinking.

It's mental, but given how inherently conservative Nicola Sturgeon is, don't be surprised if we edge towards something like this for the next 12 months. 

Maybe not quite as extreme, but politically the Scottish government will absolutely edge towards the 'safety first' end of the spectrum. 

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Agree with you about taking a hard line, but surely the school she is in is most probably open for childcare hubs? I think they may consolidate schools once they know exact numbers of kids being in emergency care, but not unreasonable for her to need a place if she's involved in supporting/staffing these hubs?
Numbers looking for kids to remain at school in Ayrshire are such that most schools will be remaining open next week rather than hubs for now. It was intended to use the same hub schools as last time but the numbers looking to send kids to school is huge in comparison. Been working on it today and it's pretty staggering really, basically it's a trust system no element of actually checking the legitimacy of a claim to be essential. You could basically put down you were a brain surgeon. There has been a whittling process but all based on the applications being factually accurate. Very few being refused ! When we wrapped up today education staff were starting to work on teaching numbers required. No idea what sort of rota they intend putting in place but going to be short notice.
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13 hours ago, Dons_1988 said:

The roads are generally quite a good indicator. You're right, during the original lockdown they were absolutely dead. Autumn/Christmas time they were as busy as ever before and I thought they might get quieter with the latest restrictions. Not so.

This is a good way of judging compliance and especially so as a cyclist*. First lockdown was a dream with almost zero cars on the road, November was business as usual and this current one is more like November than March for sure.

*My daily bit of exercise, but yes I suppose there's an element of hypocrisy in me going out on the roads and bemoaning everyone else being out in their cars. :lol:

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Numbers looking for kids to remain at school in Ayrshire are such that most schools will be remaining open next week rather than hubs for now. It was intended to use the same hub schools as last time but the numbers looking to send kids to school is huge in comparison. Been working on it today and it's pretty staggering really, basically it's a trust system no element of actually checking the legitimacy of a claim to be essential. You could basically put down you were a brain surgeon. There has been a whittling process but all based on the applications being factually accurate. Very few being refused ! When we wrapped up today education staff were starting to work on teaching numbers required. No idea what sort of rota they intend putting in place but going to be short notice.
Where in Ayrshire are you working? Because my sister in law has had the total opposite in Kilmarnock (so East Ayrshire). The school was open to key workers only, they had to provide a letter from both employers to say they were key workers and despite both her and her man working (she for the council, he for an events company - which is taking the piss a little, but apparently they also work at the Louisa Jordan Hospital) they were told that they didn't have a place. They eventually got this message at 6pm the night before the schools were to be opening by the way.
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ECC is applying rule that both parents need to be key workers for a child to get a place so our number are relatively low.  I know some parents have been really upset at the prospect of not getting a place due to their kids having complex ASN or behaviour/engagement  problems, and that sucks.  However, they need to remember that schools are closed to limit household mixing and if we start to make allowances here and there then it'll get to the point where lots of parents could want special consideration.  If that happens, how do we decide who does and doesn't warrant special dispensation to get a place?  The whole situation is a bit of a mess and I have lots of sympathy for parents, but ultimately there has to be a line drawn somewhere.  

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