The Moonster Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, pandarilla said: The issue of punishing those who break the rules has been a huge problem from the very beginning, and there are no easy solutions. Maybe have a trial of a forced and co-ordinated visit to a local hospital, hearing from some of the doctors and nurses dealing with this shit, or having to listen to someone who lost a loved one. A kind of brutal example of community service - showing first hand the effects of being a fanny. Aye mate, I'm sure what every person who's lost a loved one due to this virus wants to do is sit down in front of an 18 year old COVID denier and pour their heart out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Elixir said: Utter dystopian nonsense. High Volume rollout is already happening, which should be enough to file the rest of her mewlings into the bin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Elixir said: Utter dystopian nonsense. You can sense the excitement in her reading that 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Steven W said: You can sense the excitement in her reading that That's a pretty weird take. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: I'll be voting in May for whatever party promises to lift restrictions ASAP I reckon despite all the noises NS is making, restrictions will already be on their way out the door before the election happens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: I'll be voting in May for whatever party promises to lift restrictions ASAP Theresa ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest_Fifer Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 14:41 Society might not return to normal until 2022, WHO scientist warns BBCCopyright: BBC Society is unlikely to return to normal until "well into next year", one of the world's leading scientists has warned. Prof Helen Rees, who sits on the World Health Organization's committee for Covid-19, says "first generation" vaccines may become less effective against new variants of coronavirus. As a result, she tells BBC Wales Live, high-volume rollout of the jabs may not happen until 2022. Prof Rees says clinical trials into the efficacy of the Novavax and Janssen vaccines against the South African variant suggest there is "reduced impact". She says scientists are "concerned" the AstraZeneca and Pfizer jabs could also see reduced efficacy because they use the "original virus from China", while increasing numbers of variants are in circulation. You can read more from Prof Rees here. Utter dystopian nonsense. BuT tEh NeW vArIeNtS!!!1!1!! etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Mass community testing ongoing in grangemouth this week including those without symptoms 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 18 minutes ago, pandarilla said: The issue of punishing those who break the rules has been a huge problem from the very beginning, and there are no easy solutions. Maybe have a trial of a forced and co-ordinated visit to a local hospital, hearing from some of the doctors and nurses dealing with this shit, or having to listen to someone who lost a loved one. A kind of brutal example of community service - showing first hand the effects of being a fanny. I've said from the beginning that fines are pointless, the rich don't care as it's peanuts to them, and the poor are going to be unable o pay anyway, so makes no odds to them either. Your idea may work with some, however others will have no conscience and won't give a flying fcuk about other people suffering. I'd probably go down the community payback route where you're physically made to do some sort of unpaid manual labour (picking up litter), (tidying up gardens / public areas), (painting varnishing etc) whether you like it or not, similar to a chain gang situation in the states but obviously not "chained" or at least socially distanced at a minimum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 18 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: I do have to laugh at the idea that adults not being able to go on holiday to enable children to attend school just enough to be awarded a massively inflated grade is a "Trade off" - especially considering that the time they would be going on said holiday the schools would be closed anyway. Trade Offs involve both parties giving up something in order to gain something in return. Adults without children being asked to continue to give things up, whilst getting nothing in return, is not a trade off. I'll be voting in May for whatever party promises to lift restrictions ASAP Even Nigel ?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH33 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 30 minutes ago, pandarilla said: The issue of punishing those who break the rules has been a huge problem from the very beginning, and there are no easy solutions. Maybe have a trial of a forced and co-ordinated visit to a local hospital, hearing from some of the doctors and nurses dealing with this shit, or having to listen to someone who lost a loved one. A kind of brutal example of community service - showing first hand the effects of being a fanny. I have to say my friend who’s an icu lead nurse has given me a stark insight to what they have been dealing with. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest_Fifer Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 I see that they're looking for volunteers to take part in studies on mixing vaccines.Any over 50s out there interested in growing new limbs? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Theroadlesstravelled Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, Forest_Fifer said: Utter dystopian nonsense. BuT tEh NeW vArIeNtS!!!1!1!! etc. I’m glad you’re here. I would normally have believed a professor with more than 20 years experience. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 47 minutes ago, RiG said: Why are case rates so stubbornly high in the Glasgow area and the surrounding LAs compared to other parts of Scotland? Population density will play a role but they still seem very high considering the reduction in other areas. Population density combined with poverty and low paid jobs which means people can't work from home. Can only take public transport work or the shops is a multiplier oninfection rates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, WATTOO said: Even Nigel ?? Considering he has been posting stuff on this thread from the tea party zoomers in the states i would think so 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Bairnardo said: It's some take on here that folk who have been saying they want the vaccination process to go faster will now be raging that it's going faster Staggering take from some posters. All people have ever asked for is a vaccination program thats efficient and transparent. If all the available stock is being used effectively then great, but hopefully they’ll be scope to increase roll out even further if the Sunday sessions madness is improved on etc. 1 hour ago, Elixir said: I'm hoping those last two paragraphs means she at least realises the impossibility of 'Zero Covid'... The rest, however, well... I dont think anyone has been arguing that the travel restrictions should be lifted immediately. Im quite happy to get a refund on my holiday for May etc if it means we give the vaccine time to take effect, not heard a single person argue against that. What we need however is a clear indication as to what the criteria for opening up travel will be, its hysterical to suggest shut the borders all year for something we have proven vaccination and treatment for in ever increasing numbers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, superbigal said: Todays update: Scotland drops below 7000 active cases. North Lanarkshire on the move to the 200 barrier down over 7% on the day which is great. The South of Scotland D&G & Borders seem to be joining the East and North in virtually all now at close or well sub 100 levels. The underlying bad news is that all the big drops are already at the foot of the infection table. Lots of rises on the West portion of the country. So for our major cities you have Glasgow 193.0, Dundee 122.6, Edinburgh 67.4, Aberdeen 63.4 No schools open and all areas in lockdown for over a month. Why are they not closer in numbers ? Home Nations Infection cases per 100K over the most up to date 7 days. England 281.9 to 269.1 down 4.54%, Wales 142.4 to 136.8 down 3.93%, Northern Ireland 212.8 to 207.7 down 2.40% Scotland peaked at 301.9 for figures 29th Dec to 4th Jan Yesterdays figure 25th Jan to 31st Jan was 132.9 Todays figure for 26th Jan to 1st Feb is 128.1 Another single Day drop of 3.61%. Infections have dropped every day (now TWENTY EIGHT days in a row) since the aforementioned peak. Total drop is now 57.57% Council 24 hour progress below Click cases by neighbourhood to see the spread on the geographical map. https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview North Lanarkshire 216.5 to 201.2 Down 7.07% Falkirk 174.0 to 194.5 Heading the wrong way and surged from mid table a few days ago to 2nd top. Very spread out so unlikely to drop quickly. Glasgow City 199.3 to 193.0 South Lanarkshire 189.1 to 183.4 West Dunbartonshire 175.4 to 183.3 Renfrewshire 172.5 to 177.0 East Renfrewshire 172.7 to 175.9 North Ayrshire 183.3 to 173.7 East Dunbartonshire 169.4 to 165.7 East Ayrshire 166.4 to 165.6 Clackmannanshire 153.3 to 159.1 Inverclyde 147.8 to 149.1 West Lothian 142.0 to 140.9 Stirling 142.2 to 138.0 Dundee City 123.9 to 122.6 South Ayrshire 129.7 to 122.5 Dumfries & Galloway 131.0 to 114.2 At 12.82% drop a standout of the day. Midlothian 114.6 to 106.0 Perth & Kinross 113.2 to 102.7 Down over 9% Angus 110.2 to 99.8 Down over 9% and through the 100 barrier. Western Isles 74.9 to 93.6 Moray 89.8 to 88.7 Argyll & Bute 85.0 to 81.5 Fife 82.7 to 80.6 East Lothian 74.7 to 76.6 Scottish Borders 83.1 to 69.3 At 16.61% drop a tremendous day. City Of Edinburgh 70.7 to 67.4 Aberdeen City 75.7 to 63.4 Outstanding for our 3rd biggest city to drop another 16.24% Highlands 66.1 to 61.9 Aberdeenshire 68.9 to 59.0 Awesome 14.37% drop Orkney Island 18.0 to 9.0 Shetland Islands 4.4 to 0.0 Covid Free again There’s been targeted testing done in Grangemouth since the Start of the week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian1 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 18 minutes ago, mizfit said: Ah so that confirms suspicions that they were being economical with the truth with their "offered" nonsense. Never has the Never trust a Tory phrase been so apt. Let's see Gove avoid the question now that everyone knows the answer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanhourjoe Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: 1 hour ago, Elixir said: I dont think anyone has been arguing that the travel restrictions should be lifted immediately. Im quite happy to get a refund on my holiday for May etc if it means we give the vaccine time to take effect, not heard a single person argue against that. What we need however is a clear indication as to what the criteria for opening up travel will be, its hysterical to suggest shut the borders all year for something we have proven vaccination and treatment for in ever increasing numbers. Maybe, once the other country you want to go to has vaccinated their vulnerable groups. If you can still transmit the virus even with both doses. It would seem selfish to head off to other places, just cause we're in the clear. Btw most countries will be no where near that by the end of the year. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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