Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Elixir]

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Posted at 19:0319:03

Analysis: Hints at what the 'new normal' could entail

Jessica Parker

BBC political correspondent

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Thinking about what the future might look can feel like a fairly futile exercise sometimes, with so much up in the air.

But Boris Johnson did just offer up at least one interesting glimpse. He suggested there could well be rapid testing for people heading off to venues like nightclubs and theatres; a way of keeping a lid on infection rates in those parts of the economy that are the “toughest nuts to crack”.

That may be some way off yet and there’ll be plenty of questions as to exactly how that would work.

But it does shine a little light on what life might look like in the "new normal".

Get this absurdity in the bin right now. 

Aside from the pointless-ness of lateral flow testing, it's just unworkable nonsense. Folk waiting half cut for 20 minutes and then if you're asymptomatic and positive that's you humped? It's still health checks to do something recreational. Why not test for HIV or other STI's somewhere like a club it we're going down that route, or influenza in cinemas and theatres?

Shit like this is anything but 'normal'.

Bin.

[Elixir]

3 minutes ago, Scosha said:

Lol Devi ur so funny!!!!! Haha

The Swedes never torched their society yet cases and deaths are still falling away like snow off a dyke. 

[Rugster]

2 hours ago, Todd_is_God said:

I'm not going to get annoyed by the routemap until I see it, and have also seen what NS things she needs to be seen to care more about and change for no real reason.

For someone who bangs on about a 4 nations approach being best she doesn't half love deviating and "going further"

“Banging “on about a four nation approach, and disagreeing with how some of the other nations are handling it, and so doing it differently, is not the same thing. 

[Melanius Mullarkey]

42 minutes ago, Glen Sannox said:

But voting to divorce your neighbour, friend and biggest trading partner after a 300 year marriage, isn’t “peak stupid” apparently.

 

[Todd_is_God]

Just now, Rugster said:

“Banging “on about a four nation approach, and disagreeing with how some of the other nations are handling it, and so doing it differently, is not the same thing. 

It is though. What she means by a "4 nation approach" is everyone doing what she wants to do.

[Rugster]

Just now, Todd_is_God said:

It is though. What she means by a "4 nation approach" is everyone doing what she wants to do.

Who says we are deviating from the other nations? Why is it not the case they are deviating from us?

[Thereisalight..]

2 hours ago, Michael W said:

Sky have been adept at fear mongering through sensationalism the entire pandemic. No reason they'll stop it now. 

Exactly this. I see their website is running with the "scientists say to keep social distancing for the foreseable" as their main headline. Whipping up other hysterical news sites like the Ayrshire Daily News to report it and have a meltdown in their comments section. MSM have a lot to answer for during the pandemic 

[Todd_is_God]

Just now, Rugster said:

Who says we are deviating from the other nations? Why is it not the case they are deviating from us?

Come off it. The UK Gov never go "far enough" according to NS. It's quite clear who is doing the deviating.

[Rugster]

Just now, Todd_is_God said:

Come off it. The UK Gov never go "far enough" according to NS. It's quite clear who is doing the deviating.

What’s the death rate per head of population in England compared to Scotland? 

[Todd_is_God]

Just now, Rugster said:

What’s the death rate per head of population in England compared to Scotland? 

What has that got to do with the point I made? You can't bemoan the lack of a 4 nation approach whilst at the same time being the one deviating.

[Thereisalight..]

One thing I keep seeing being mentioned is the need for testing for months/years yet. Is their any reason why once the elderly and vulnerable have been vaccinated why we still need to test people? The various guises of Test and Protect are costing an absolute fortune to run each day. Why should money be wasted on this for much longer? Will folk like my Aunt who is 70 and a hypochondriac be allowed to get a test done even when shes been fully vaccinated? (She got her first dose yesterday). 

[101]

makes a mockery of England's red list thing almost as if they may as well not bother.

 

 

[Billy Jean King]

The vaccines say so, yes

You were lambasting the "clever" virus chat yet now you are telling us the vaccine can communicate with us.......[emoji849]

[Todd_is_God]

1 minute ago, Billy Jean King said:

You were lambasting the "clever" virus chat yet now you are telling us the vaccine can communicate with us.......

[Steven W]

23 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said:

Exactly this. I see their website is running with the "scientists say to keep social distancing for the foreseable" as their main headline. Whipping up other hysterical news sites like the Ayrshire Daily News to report it and have a meltdown in their comments section. MSM have a lot to answer for during the pandemic 

Correct.

And yet more open ended language. What does "foreseeable" even mean. It could mean anything from a couple months to several years.

Any politician worth their salt would tell to f**k off and come back with something more specific.

[D.A.F.C]

With testing maybe the best and easiest way would be a Bluetooth or wifi device that tests you and will allow entry to events once your phone accepts the test. A bit big brother but it would allow for easy access to football or gigs, can’t be too difficult to make something like this surely?

If youre tested at work or in another place like a GP surgery or dentists then that counts. Yes it would cost a bit but how much would another lockdown cost or 200,000 needing ICU over the next couple of years? Possibly switch testing off and on with the tier system.

This to me is a properly handled crisis, not just let’s open stuff up and hope that a transmissible virus will somehow stop spreading when we only have 30% vaccinated. It would also mean the end of masks and SD. In the event of a breakout then just close down a small area and switch on smartphone only access with negative test. Nah let’s just let it rip, no idea who or what or where it is. Punish everyone.

[Elixir]

28 minutes ago, 101 said:

makes a mockery of England's red list thing almost as if they may as well not bother.

Aside from the fact that only 1 in 1,000 cases are imported at the border, and that it's the 'UK variant' which is going to 'sweep the world', the exact same can be said of the Scottish Government's scramble for relevance when people simply fly to Newcastle or Manchester before their onward journey to Scotland.

Still, there will be coin put in some people's pockets.

[Theroadlesstravelled]

28 minutes ago, 101 said:

makes a mockery of England's red list thing almost as if they may as well not bother.

 

 

I don’t see a problem.

We were told the variants aren’t of concern and the high risk have now been vaccinated. Covid has been reduced to a few people with the sniffles.

[Marshmallo]

6 minutes ago, Elixir said:

Aside from the fact that only 1 in 1,000 cases are imported at the border, and that it's the 'UK variant' which is going to 'sweep the world', the exact same can be said of the Scottish Government's scramble for relevance when people simply fly to Newcastle or Manchester before their onward journey to Scotland.

Still, there will be coin put in some people's pockets.

If you get down to a low enough number of community case then that "1 in 1,000" is completely incorrect. You could argue every single case outside of China is "imported at the border".

[effeffsee_the2nd]

With testing maybe the best and easiest way would be a Bluetooth or wifi device that tests you and will allow entry to events once your phone accepts the test. A bit big brother but it would allow for easy access to football or gigs, can’t be too difficult to make something like this surely?
If youre tested at work or in another place like a GP surgery or dentists then that counts. Yes it would cost a bit but how much would another lockdown cost or 200,000 needing ICU over the next couple of years? Possibly switch testing off and on with the tier system.
This to me is a properly handled crisis, not just let’s open stuff up and hope that a transmissible virus will somehow stop spreading when we only have 30% vaccinated. It would also mean the end of masks and SD. In the event of a breakout then just close down a small area and switch on smartphone only access with negative test. Nah let’s just let it rip, no idea who or what or where it is. Punish everyone.

What is it with fifers and wanting a version of black mirror or minority report to become reality?
f**k off wi that , ken ae