effeffsee_the2nd Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 How can a nightclub open with SD?If I’m on the dancing no c**t will cone near me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 The next step in this plan should be a ramp up of countering blatant lies fired out by the cretinous anti-vaxxer mobs. Time to nip these folk in the bud and drown out their dangerous lies. I've seen a few folk on TV in the last week raising the question of 'is it true what I heard that it affects fertility?' which has clearly come from the spread of nonsense and scaremongering to prevent people getting this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Get to f**k Patrick! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, craigkillie said: You've just made that up. The end of July, maybe. See, they keep saying that. End of May is about 100 days away. About 3m first doses to go in Scotland (and that would represent in excess of a 95% uptake). 30k first doses a day between now and then does it. I assume that given Scotland and England are broadly in the same place and have broadly the same demographics and vaccine capacity that that pace would apply to England as well. Entirely dependent on supply and probably a slight increase in capacity to allow for second doses at the same time, but it isn’t unrealistic at all. I rather suspect that BoJo’s plan - to ditch pretty much everything on June 21 - somewhat relies on everyone having had one dose by the end of May. Edited February 22, 2021 by Jamie_Beatson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibsFan Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Ad Lib said: Maybe you should re-evaluate your other views. It's pretty clear that social distancing guidance will remain in place well into the summer and possibly even into the tail end of the year (Chris Whitty has said as much). Where we will continue to have restrictions, I suspect, is in terms of what business have to do to make their premises COVID compliant. Even if there's no longer a ban on gatherings over a certain size, for example, the safety certificates for football stadiums (or similar) are likely to be updated to reduce their permitted capacity for a few months, so as to ensure social distancing is something people can do effectively. Once we have everyone (or as near as possible to everyone) in the UK vaccinated, social distancing needs to be put on a bonfire and said goodbye to forever. A horrible, cold and unnatural policy that limits all meaningful human interaction, experiences and daily life. You only need to go back on the last ten or so pages and look at the many things people have said they'll be doing when this is all over to understand just how much we as a society have missed out on in this past year thanks to 'social distancing'. I can just about accept in extreme circumstances to cut down excess deaths amongst an unvaccinated population at the height of a pandemic. Beyond that? Get it to absolute f**k man. Edited February 22, 2021 by HibsFan 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: How can a nightclub open with SD? Ask @welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 You realise that the entire population will have a first dose by the end of May?Is that the plan now. Didn't realise it had been brought forward that much. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Orton Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, No_Problemo said: Get to f**k Patrick! Cheers Harvie now f**k off. Another idiot in cloud cuckoo land. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true_rover Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 See, they keep saying that. End of May is about 100 days away. About 3m first doses to go in Scotland (and that would represent in excess of a 95% uptake). 30k first doses a day between now and then does it. I assume that given Scotland and England are broadly in the same place and have broadly the same demographics and vaccine capacity that that pace would apply to England as well. Entirely dependent on supply and probably a slight increase in capacity to allow for second doses at the same time, but it isn’t unrealistic at all. I rather suspect that BoJo’s plan - to ditch pretty much everything on June 21 - somewhat relies on everyone having had one dose by the end of May.Not that it isn't possible, but you need to take into account people getting second doses as well, which are starting to creep up a little. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 As long as it all doesn't end like this. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Tricky now for Nicola Sturgeon. She's naturally far more conservative than Johnson and his roadmap out looks nothing like the one she would like to introduce. But if she keeps us locked up while England are partying, and while Scotland's hospitalisation rates plummet, she'll pay the price in May's election. There's no doubt about that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 1 hour ago, Elixir said: Bar an admission ZC is impossible there was nothing else remotely realistic in a word the buffoon said. Do you really think those dates are at all achievable ? Unless vaccines suddenly vanish off the face of the Earth, those dates are absolutely achievable. As are earlier ones. With vaccines absolutely cigaring this, the dates are essentially arbitrary - it depends entirely on the maximum number of new infections and deaths that are deemed acceptable. It's not zero though. I'd rather have opening up determined by ICU and hospitalisation rates on a legally binding criteria, so that we can progress even further where the facts allow it and keep all of these politicians and the Chief Clownshoe away from that decision-making. Edited February 22, 2021 by vikingTON 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 After that by Johson, tomorrow is shaping up to be Sturgeon's biggest day as FM. Seriously ??? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, No_Problemo said: Get to f**k Patrick! f**k off Patrick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, true_rover said: 10 minutes ago, Jamie_Beatson said: See, they keep saying that. End of May is about 100 days away. About 3m first doses to go in Scotland (and that would represent in excess of a 95% uptake). 30k first doses a day between now and then does it. I assume that given Scotland and England are broadly in the same place and have broadly the same demographics and vaccine capacity that that pace would apply to England as well. Entirely dependent on supply and probably a slight increase in capacity to allow for second doses at the same time, but it isn’t unrealistic at all. I rather suspect that BoJo’s plan - to ditch pretty much everything on June 21 - somewhat relies on everyone having had one dose by the end of May. Not that it isn't possible, but you need to take into account people getting second doses as well, which are starting to creep up a little. Literally what I said in the last paragraph. But note that even if the average capacity from now til end of May was only 50k a day - below what we are capable of - we’d get over 2m second doses delivered by that time at an average 30k first dose 20k second dose split. In reality if won’t work like that - we don’t have to do many second AZ doses at all until well into April for example - but the capacity to do both is there. Supply is the question, nothing else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, No_Problemo said: Get to f**k Patrick! Decent chance I'm voting for no one this year. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Just now, Marshmallo said: Decent chance I'm voting for no one this year. Yup, he has completely ruined any thought I had of changing my vote to his party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Patrick Harvie makes some perfectly sensible points there. You're all being a little bit too emotional. Perhaps you're unsuitable to be given the vote. -13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I’d assume those threatening to not vote SNP won’t be lending their vote to the Greens then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Very big day for Sturgeon tomorrow. I have absolutely zero faith that the 21st June ‘data not dates’ date will met. Sturgeon probably doesn’t either. Johnson has been wrong about quite literally everything in this pandemic, it’s optimistic to say the least that he’ll be right this time. But the scenario facing Sturgeon is that she is a bit more pragmatic and removes that hope and says it’s not happening, unless things go better than expected. Heads gone on this thread and I’m sure much of the population too. Or she commits to the date and likely misses it as well. I think she’ll go down the middle. Some vague platitudes about hoping for similar timeframes to England but ‘retaining the right to slow down based on data’, ‘see how we are nearer the time’ etc etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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