Jump to content

Coronavirus (COVID-19)


Recommended Posts

3 hours ago, Todd_is_God said:

When you look back over the last 12 months, the UK Gov and SG have been consistent in adding restrictions based on "the science" but never go back and remove them when it becomes apparent that the science doesn't really show they are impactful at all:

  • Sanitising surfaces regularly
  • Banning Alcohol
  • Closing hospitality
  • Masks
  • Banning Spectators

Are a few examples of measures that were brought in based on the science at the time, but, despite their being plenty of evidence that the impact of each being (at best) minimal, restrictions are never lifted. They are left in place because "well we might as well." The only thing I can think of that was brought in and then binned, was banning hospitality from playing background music.

The only logical reason I can think of for this approach is to give the continued impression that they are somehow "in control" of the virus.

But the knock-on effect is that there is a not inconsiderable group of the public who believe that not having these restrictions in place is excessively dangerous. This mentality will take a long time to shift.

To give an example, there is a bar in Glasgow which has put in planning permission for a large outdoor beer garden. This should be welcomed, but there are comments under it begging this to be denied because "It's too big - how can the staff make sure no-one stays for longer than two hours?!" 

I don't disagree with what you're saying, however for the most part our European neighbours have been following very similar advice and facing very similar restrictions to ourselves.

Granted there has been the odd "token gesture" such as the small amount of fans in Amsterdam this evening but if we look at France, Germany and Spain it's all been the same as ourselves.

I suppose we probably need one of those countries to break ranks and let things play out, however all Governments would still appear to be terrified of the repercussions should they get it wrong and as such we're all suffering as a result.

Still, it can't go on forever and sooner or later public opinion and the business lobbies will force Governments hand, especially when the hospitalisations are virtually non existent and the majority have been vaccinated as at that point their argument will no longer hold any water.

Here's hoping that day will be soon........

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, charlie king mvp said:

Would be no surprise if UEFA took the games we have for the Euros somewhere else.  

Would be a HUGE surprise actually, given that most of Europe is in the middle of a third wave with hospitals at breaking point. Frankly, I think fans at football matches are the least of their concerns right now.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Thereisalight.. said:

Exactly. I cant see Ayr or Stranraer etc being allowed fans until everyone is. Totally not fair but that seems to be the narrative 

That's a relief, it's bad enough watching us on a stream at the moment !!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

39 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

 I don’t believe for a second that its somehow safer to have unregulated numbers of old biddies in a church singing away than people socially distanced at a football ground watching a match especially given the average demographics of the latter having significantly lower mortality than the church goers. 
There’s now a very clear need imo for the government to justify with published evidence why crowds can’t attend open air matches given the only evidence (and id be happy to admit im wrong) seems to be that its actually safe/negligible risk of transmission in outdoor environments like a football ground. 

As far as I understand it the singing element is still banned in churches, the numbers are regulated as is the distancing.

It still however makes little sense in the element of why 600 fans cannot go along and support Brechin City or Edinburgh City as expamples now, in an outdoor environment . If their concern is travel make it home fans only for a few weeks.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The latest ONS survey. Scotland has the highest covid infection rates in the UK

So the elimination strategy must be working well.... 😂

Wonder if there will be English racists in the border with “keep Scotland out” banners 😂

Edited by Baz Chuckle
Link to comment
Share on other sites

40 minutes ago, realmadrid said:

As far as I understand it the singing element is still banned in churches, the numbers are regulated as is the distancing.

It still however makes little sense in the element of why 600 fans cannot go along and support Brechin City or Edinburgh City as expamples now, in an outdoor environment . If their concern is travel make it home fans only for a few weeks.

I assume of course that the collection plate won't be getting passed around?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

43 minutes ago, realmadrid said:

 

It still however makes little sense in the element of why 600 fans cannot go along and support Brechin City or Edinburgh City as expamples now, in an outdoor environment . If their concern is travel make it home fans only for a few weeks.

That's optimistic. Given the Helen Lovejoys running the SG, I'd be surprised if away fans are allowed to attend games by the end of next season at this rate. 

They'll most likely announce some sanitised (pun incidental) pish, 'fan protocol' for next season, with fans asked to turn up at 2 o'clock and required to take an hour to carefully file out again, with every pub within a mile of the ground shut. All subject to variants!!!!1111!!!! of course.

Some will lap it up as progress before it remains in place so long as one fatty is creaking in a hospital bed. 

Edited by vikingTON
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

I called the fact someone would mount a legal challenge over the efficacy and necessity of the restrictions and measures about a month ago and certain posters tried to mock me, the churches legal action has imo opened the door. I would not be surprised if there is a similar action to see other liberties restored. I don’t believe for a second that its somehow safer to have unregulated numbers of old biddies in a church singing away than people socially distanced at a football ground watching a match especially given the average demographics of the latter having significantly lower mortality than the church goers. 
There’s now a very clear need imo for the government to justify with published evidence why crowds can’t attend open air matches given the only evidence (and id be happy to admit im wrong) seems to be that its actually safe/negligible risk of transmission in outdoor environments like a football ground. 

Presumably a large part of it is the getting to the game, queuing outside, influx of people to the local streets etc too. I doubt it's all just based on what is happening inside the ground. Not that I'm outside churches on a Sunday morning, but I don't imagine it causes many travel / queueing issues etc

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, dirty dingus said:

Must be a banging night if you find yourself trawling a covid thread on a football forum.

Mind when @Todd_is_God banged on for months about getting the pubs open and then spent his first Saturday night in a pub live-updating the Covid thread on P&B?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...