Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Honest Saints Fan]

 

[Elixir]

1 hour ago, Spider Rico said:

“In the long term, social distancing means taking time off work when you feel unwell, it also means better hand hygiene and washing our hands for longer, he states.”

More like it from Patrick Vallance. If he can just reign in the “long term” part 

As usual, the inconsistent and ambiguous messaging is a tragedy.

[MuckleMoo]

More positive news coming out of Israel

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hope-for-herd-immunity-vaccines-shown-to-protect-israelis-who-dont-get-them/

[Left Back]

9 minutes ago, Honest Saints Fan said:

 

^^^ doesn’t have a mate with a factory that manufactures LFT’s.

[Jim McLean's Ghost]

22 minutes ago, Honest Saints Fan said:

 

Aren't LFTs shite and full of false results?

They tried to fob them off on English school kids and there was a big backlash by parents saying "f**k no" because a positive test meant self isolation for 10 days even if there was a subsequent negative from a more reliable test.

Edited April 5, 2021 by Jim McLean's Ghost

[Todd_is_God]

36 minutes ago, Honest Saints Fan said:

 

Probably planning to use the allocated funds to subsidise longer restrictions instead.

[Honest_Man#1]

2 hours ago, craigkillie said:

This is essentially advocating a step towards fascism. Being bad at your job should not be punishable by imprisonment, no matter what your job is. The predictions are not what affect the liberty of people - the liberty of people is being affected by the people who make the decisions - the fact that they might act on bad information (or at least a failure to understand the nuances of the information) is their fault for picking the wrong people to listen to. It sort of reminds me (in the opposite direction) of the Italian government trying to prosecute seismologists who failed to predict the fatal earthquake in L'Aquila in 2009.

The only possible effect of this is that scientists (and all sorts of other experts) refuse to work with the government again, and you get a bunch of yes men telling people in power exactly what they want to hear with no checks or balances.

I don’t agree with Todd’s stance on this, but the line in bold is not correct in reality, and neither should it be. If I do my job very badly, regardless of doing it with malice, I could end up accidentally killing a large number of people. If that happens I will be prosecuted for it, and I should be.

[8MileBU]

2 hours ago, Bairnardo said:

Going to be honest here. I am starting to struggle with all this shit.

Honestly, speaking to people who are peddling the need for passports, spouting off about variants and wanting to be kept safe, reading these utterly pointless, serves no good purpose articles and headlines, I'm struggling to keep a lid on my anger with it all.

Its still at the point where criticism of the response is met with "covid denier" chat, but the clear reality of it is we are so fucking far from "protect the NHS" its unrecognisable.

I don't know what we are doing here anymore, but I am starting to worry that normal life isn't coming back.

You’re not alone here. I’ve been at that point like you’re  describing here a few times and probably will be again before this is all over. I’m now at the “past giving a f**k” stage as are many people I know. Normal life will come back whether they say it’s allowed to or not.

Edited April 5, 2021 by 8MileBU

[Elixir]

35 minutes ago, MuckleMoo said:

More positive news coming out of Israel

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hope-for-herd-immunity-vaccines-shown-to-protect-israelis-who-dont-get-them/

BuT cHiLe!!!11

Seriously, though - I wonder what will happen longer term if it turns out the mRNA vaccines are indeed 'superior' to other more traditional vaccines. Will we be in a position where we 'only' want to use them, as the rush to get any vaccine into arms ends? Particularly if they hammer transmission even more.

[superbigal]

On 04/04/2021 at 16:47, superbigal said:

 

Daily Infections update.  From UK Gov as opposed to PHS who need 4 days of holidays.  Last 24 hours of data. These numbers if accurate and not solely down to holidays are astonishing. The PHS figures tomorrow should confirm either way.

Cases per 100K last reported 7 days UK Average  47.6 to 44.0 down 7.56%, England  47.3 to 43.9 down 7.19% ,  Wales 31.0 to 28.7 down 7.42%, Northern Ireland 51.6 to 49.4 down 6.20%

Scotland 58.8 to 51.4 down 12.59%

Individual councils Clackmannanshire shows at 228.9 per 100K on these figures (still rising).  The next worst in the UK now is Doncaster  at 129.2  So Clacks is over 75% worse than the 2nd place council in the UK !!  West Lothian is  7th at 106.5, North Lanarkshire is 12th at 103.4.  The only 3 Scottish councils now over 100 per 100K.

 Glasgow is now below 70, 

6 councils in the UK have rates under 10 and all are in Scotland.  Orkney 0.0 , Western Isles 0.0 , Dumfries & Galloway 5.4, Argyll & Bute 5.8,  Highlands 6.8 & Shetlands 8.7 have a grand total of 31 active cases !!   The Borders 11.3  & South Ayrshire 16.0 also find themselves in the bottom 20.

[Bairnardo]

21 minutes ago, 8MileBU said:

You’re not alone here. I’ve been at that point like you’re  describing here a few times and probably will be again before this is all over. I’m now at the “past giving a f**k” stage as are many people I know. Normal life will come back whether they say it’s allowed to or not.

Agreed, but the aspects of life that can't just f**k off the restrictions like I/you/we all will as they pertain to my home sadden me. Watching the pub industry die will break my heart, for example. 

[Burnieman]

18 minutes ago, 8MileBU said:

You’re not alone here. I’ve been at that point like you’re  describing here a few times and probably will be again before this is all over. I’m now at the “past giving a f**k” stage as are many people I know. Normal life will come back whether they say it’s allowed to or not.

I think you need to sometimes switch off from this thread, twitter and news sites.    We're in a fast moving environment where it's easy to get lost in a myriad of different takes on a particular news update where people are lighting cigars or losing their heads in equal measure.  This thread is evident of that.

Most people have had good and bad days during the last 12 months, sometimes its good to put the phone down and turn off the laptop for a while and forget.  Not easy I know.

[Marshmallo]

Would love to see justification for why those in the 6 councils you've noted above can't have a game of fives, a pint with a meal out or their family in their living rooms for another 6 weeks.

[anotherchance]

23 minutes ago, 8MileBU said:

 Normal life will come back whether they say it’s allowed to or not.

Absolutely this.

Most of the ideas currently being floated, such as old man pubs needing somebody on every door on a Tuesday afternoon checking for vaccine proof, are so ridiculous that they won't happen. 

The vaccines are fucking immense, and will be the ticket back to normality - regardless of whatever sociopaths like Johnson or Sridhar say.

 

[Michael W]

1 hour ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:

Aren't LFTs shite and full of false results?

They tried to fob them off on English school kids and there was a big backlash by parents saying "f**k no" because a positive test meant self isolation for 10 days even if there was a subsequent negative from a more reliable test.

The number of tests undertaken does suggest that a lot of the tests are being returned. Naturally it is well within the gift of parents not to bother seeing to it that the child is tested, particularly if the little shit is really getting on their parents' nerves. 

Johnson's lost the plot with rolling these out to everyone in England. Total overkill and, frankly, a giant waste of money. I won't be bothering and will go and get a proper test if circumstances dictate that I need one. 

Edited April 5, 2021 by Michael W

[Thereisalight..]

14 minutes ago, anotherchance said:

Absolutely this.

Most of the ideas currently being floated, such as old man pubs needing somebody on every door on a Tuesday afternoon checking for vaccine proof, are so ridiculous that they won't happen. 

The vaccines are fucking immense, and will be the ticket back to normality - regardless of whatever sociopaths like Johnson or Sridhar say.

 

BJ seems hellbent on bringing domestic vaccines in. With a shower of shite MPS who'll either back him or abstain. As for Devi she should have been punted back into obscurity at least 10 months ago. 

[Thereisalight..]

Has anyone else on here never had the covid test or downloaded the app? 

[peasy23]

Has anyone else on here never had the covid test or downloaded the app? 

Downloaded the app in the vain hope I would get flagged up as a contact once or twice and get some extra time off work.

Never had a test, even when my missus had it in November I never had any symptoms so didn't need one as that was the system at the time.

[mizfit]

I downloaded the app but never had a warning.

I’ve also never had to have a test. My girlfriend needs to do the test once a week for her work though despite having had both vaccines, and got it once outside of work after feeling ill and decided to play it safe.

[peasy23]

I downloaded the app but never had a warning.

I’ve also never had to have a test. My girlfriend needs to do the test once a week for her work though despite having had both vaccines, and got it once outside of work after feeling ill and decided to play it safe.

I didn’t even get a warning through the app after the wife tested positive, got a text message from test and protect.