Dawson Park Boy Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 48 minutes ago, scottsdad said: I genuinely feel that there are people who look on the March-July 2020 lockdown in the same way that UKIP types look back on the Blitz. These folk think of the lockdown as rainbows in windows, 8pm clapping for carers, social media "message to myself in 6 months", everyone pulling together and doing their bit. The ukippers think of the Blitz as everyone sitting in the London Underground having a jolly old time of it. Through the misty eyes of such selective hindsight they forget the job losses, the financial hardships. the social isolation, people dying alone in hospitals, the mental health damage, domestic violence rising, alcohol use rising, and people unable to see, touch and hug loved ones. I suspect that when people come on the radio asking for restrictions back, they really want to relive a time that never actually happened the way they remember it. Only thing wrong with your analysis is that all my friends (70upwards) tend to be those right wing UKIp types you refer to. My experience is that it is the leftie, SNP Labour types who want all this authoritarianism (‘ Nicola says so it must be okay’). Absolutely nothing to back it up. Just personal experience. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, Tynie Mell said: The PM showed though that he had Covid despite 3 jabs. I presume you mean post mortem rather than Boris… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 How are the shan modellers accounting for the 30% decrease in severity in terms of how it impactos hospitalisations?I could be way off here, but you see folk on the news etc with their hot takes that "that 30% drop still isnt enough when you account for the increased transmission" and it makes me wonder if publicly we are bei g fed an assumption that 30% decrease in severity = 30% drop in hosptilisations, which I think is shite, unless I am doing the modeller types even more a disservice than they deserve....To better illustrate what im trying to say, this old road safety message was the best I could think of... https://www.roadwise.co.uk/using-the-road/speeding/the-chance-of-a-pedestrian-surviving/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: How are the shan modellers accounting for the 30% decrease in severity in terms of how it impactos hospitalisations? I could be way off here, but you see folk on the news etc with their hot takes that "that 30% drop still isnt enough when you account for the increased transmission" and it makes me wonder if publicly we are bei g fed an assumption that 30% decrease in severity = 30% drop in hosptilisations, which I think is shite, unless I am doing the modeller types even more a disservice than they deserve.... To better illustrate what im trying to say, this old road safety message was the best I could think of... https://www.roadwise.co.uk/using-the-road/speeding/the-chance-of-a-pedestrian-surviving/ Theres also not much discussion about what the 'hospitalisations' entail. Delta and now Omicron hospitalisations were far shorter so even if the hospitalisations increase, the number of bed days with COVID patients is likely to be shorter than say, Alpha 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 44 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: Myself and my partner have it. Most likely caught from my dad who we go down and see regularly since my mum died a couple of months back. My dad is young at 59 and took moderately rough headaches, loss of taste and a general headcold. My partner had shivers, banging sore head for a couple of days and what felt like again, a headcold. I have had a pretty sore throat, dry cough (only now producing a bit of mucus) and a tight chest, sore joints/teeth in spells too. All three of us feel fatigued but honestly, nothing I've never had or felt before. I've had chest infections that have totally floored me in the past and this is nowhere near it. Sorry to hear about your mum pal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have some faith in Magic Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Also if it's as rampant as we are led to believe lots of people will be in hospital with omricon not because of omricon. It seems more important than ever to split out the people being treated for the virus in hospital because it I'd making them ill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa Cuddy Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Snafu said: Every day is a school day. If you feel unwell after getting your booster or if you were unwell for a few days after being vaccinated either for 1st or 2nd. If you weren't aware before that you had COVID three to four weeks before vaccination, its very likely you have or had the virus very recently. Have heard this a few times people having reactions to either the first or second. I would guess this would happen sometimes due to having COVID recently but I wouldn't think every reaction to a vaccination is because of having COVID. If you have tested positive for COVID-19 and you are due your vaccination, probably best to wait about a month before getting that done. What do you think? I think you’ve been reading nonsense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Karpaty Lviv said: The schools being open next week for three days is just crazy - but of course as the unions brought this up, despite the sense it makes, the government rejected it to save face. No real problem with the kids being at home. However the unions want them shut to protect their members Xmas plans. Diddums. If the Schools were shut early as long as the teachers were made to still attend I agree. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, superbigal said: No real problem with the kids being at home. However the unions want them shut to protect their members Xmas plans. Diddums. If the Schools were shut early as long as the teachers were made to still attend I agree. They want them shut to protect their members, as the government are screeching about the end of the world yet again. Given everyone has to work from home, I don’t see the purpose in closing schools and making teachers go into school - they can WFH too. Regardless, the schools won’t be closing anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 M&S not wasted any time. Queuing system outside the Ayr shop with a staff member controlling access. Bonkers stuff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Just as a wee addition to the isolation patter, I got told at work yesterday that if we become a contact, we still follow the old protocol of negative PCR, and LFt each day and we can keep working. Been told they have govt dispensation for this. I did ask to see an official email or letter to this end but not seen one as yet. So are they at it or do such dispensations already exist? Id have yhought if they did, the likes of scotrail would have them? Also, if they do exist, does it just apply to work ir does it entitle me to bin the isolation on my days off too? Seems like BS to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-59664846 Quote Meanwhile, Prof Chalmers of Dundee University said the new variant has a rate of infection of 50% - one person with the virus in a room of 100 could infect 50 people. Move over, measles. Omirona: the most infectious 'disease' in history. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_MFC Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 COBRA meeting tonight. The messaging about how serious the situation is in London ramping up. Give it til tomorrow at 5 til Boris follows suit with our mince from yesterday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Vojáček Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, MP_MFC said: COBRA meeting tonight. The messaging about how serious the situation is in London ramping up. Give it til tomorrow at 5 til Boris follows suit with our mince from yesterday. Which will be followed by teasing of restrictions getting even tougher up here until Tuesday, when the FM announces we have to queue outside takeaways again and wear masks in the gym. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 45 minutes ago, Rugster said: Sorry to hear about your mum pal. Cheers mate. She dropped really quickly in the end and had no quality of life for about 4 months before hand. It a fucking horrible disease as you know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Billy Jean King said: Lille are the current French champions Bad choice of team. I should have said the Old Firm. The SNP are like the Old Firm… would have been a bad start to the post. I hold my hands up. I chose the wrong ‘big team that always win cos’ the opposition cannot compete’ analagy. OK. Here goes again…. The SNP are like St Mirren, while the opposition parties are like Greenock Morton - shite, and a bit smelly. Sorted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroMoutinho Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, MP_MFC said: COBRA meeting tonight. The messaging about how serious the situation is in London ramping up. Give it til tomorrow at 5 til Boris follows suit with our mince from yesterday. Press conference this evening apparently 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Johnson doing another 5pm press conference... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 hours ago, NotThePars said: Right I don't like the SNP much but this didn't just happen out of nowhere, the SNP were largely responsible for this. The opposition might be shite but the SNP have to a substantial extent caused that collapse in a feasible opposition by being a reasonably competent political party for the last 14+ years. Far and away the most competent in the UK however damning that faint praise is. …and I would say that in a Scottish Parliamentary system that was designed so that no one party would romp to an overall majority, initially, the SNP government in Edinburgh were doing a decent job in running Scotland. In my opinion, given the devolved powers already at their disposal, I wish they’d get back to concentrating on running the country using those powers. They have become, in my opinion obviously, too successful at the polls, too complacent, and frankly, too hung up on IndyRef2, 3, 4, and 5… because when they lose IndyRef2, and they will - they’ll scweam and scweam like the spoiled fcuking brats they have become, and, in a Calimero style, will bleat ‘It’s an injustice!’. (The SNP losing any IndyRef2 is the opinion of the author of this post, and in no way reflects the views of Pie & Bovril, its affiliates or sponsors. Terms and conditions apply. For a full list of terms and conditions, please visit www.giespeaceanddoyourjobs.com) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Tunbridge Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) My work have brought back a one way system despite the fact after yesterday they have limited it to about 4 people being allowed in the office each day (our office is massive) Edited December 15, 2021 by Scotty Tunbridge 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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