Detournement Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ross. said: The next UK election will be interesting. Currently it looks like Labour Are Building a lot more support than they have had for a while, but if the Tories have got their approach to the current situation correct, I think a lot of people will forgive them for embezzling billions of public money and vote them in again. The Tories will just turn the racism dial up on Facebook if they are struggling near election time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 57 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: How thick are people btw? Scotland's (and Wales and N.I.) official case numbers for the last 4 days are 0, 0, 0 & 0 yet people use graphs like this in an attempt to show that BJ is wrong and the likes of NS's restrictions have caused "7 day average cases" to plummet. It's stupidity at best; dishonest, confirmation-bias fuelled nationalist propaganda at worst. The exact same tactic used when the reporting issue caused the graph to look like this for a day. It'll be Johnson's fault when the 4 days of data at once send the cases shooting up. Dumber than a box of rocks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 16 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Shit! She'll be worried sick by this development. Very 2007-2015 Scottish Labour esque. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 44 minutes ago, Clockwork said: She’s definitely overplayed her hand here. It perhaps doesn’t matter to the party faithful but to the undecided and soft yes who will make the difference, the alarm bells are ringing. By the time elections come round I don't think it will make much of a difference. The opposition parties to date have offered no alternatives 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Detournement said: The Tories will just turn the racism dial up on Facebook if they are struggling near election time. Can probably just paint Labour as the nanny interfering gimps they are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Michael W said: It'll be Johnson's fault when the 4 days of data at once send the cases shooting up. Dumber than a box of rocks. And next update when the same pattern repeats will be because of all the selfish idiots going to England for NYE. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 24 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Shit! She'll be worried sick by this development. For someone with so much to say about the tone and discourse on this thread recently, you havent hapf went in for the condescending w****r approach today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Rugster said: I saw it on The National’s Twitter which was a bit disconcerting as it’s pretty much Pravda for the SNP. That's harsh on Pravda which actually produced important works by Lenin and others. Maybe the Wee Ginger Dug has his own April Theses in the works. 17 minutes ago, Ross. said: The next UK election will be interesting. Currently it looks like Labour Are Building a lot more support than they have had for a while, but if the Tories have got their approach to the current situation correct, I think a lot of people will forgive them for embezzling billions of public money and vote them in again. Most of that current Labour bounce has come from the press putting serious pressure on the Tories for the first time in years. It'll more than likely evaporate when the tap is turned off again. I think the press and the Tories are currently waiting to see who blinks first and the key indicator is when Boris is emptied. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 France is removing the negative test option on their Digital ID restriction regime. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: For someone with so much to say about the tone and discourse on this thread recently, you havent hapf went in for the condescending w****r approach today. gone in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladdin Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 49 minutes ago, Ross. said: As much as I think she is making a rip roaring c**t of the current situation, it doesn’t appear to be damaging support for independence. If anything I have seen more people who previously disliked the notion come out in support of her and what she is doing than the opposite. Plenty of people who support independence have always disliked her and the SNP, that has been highlighted as well but is very different to putting people off independence altogether. I think she will have weakened her personal support in some groups but strengthened in others, particularly the middle aged, middle class small c conservatives who approve of restrictions and who were naturally cautious about independence. I'm not in favour of the current restrictions but I recognise that this thread is likely not representative of the wider population. Like it or not, its England that is an outlier in western Europe where most have introduced further measures and I believe this will be recognised by many. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Wonder how the former health secretary / current FM will respond to this one... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: For someone with so much to say about the tone and discourse on this thread recently, you havent hapf went in for the condescending w****r approach today. Today? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Read a very accurate take on twitter that if the NHS is overwhelmed due to staff absence rather than than sheer numbers of sick people requiring treatment, then it’s really a crisis of our own doing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherchance Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: Wonder how the former health secretary / current FM will respond to this one... Table service only till we get new doctors trained up. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rugster said: Today? Relative to the base level..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherchance Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Donathan said: Read a very accurate take on twitter that if the NHS is overwhelmed due to staff absence rather than than sheer numbers of sick people requiring treatment, then it’s really a crisis of our own doing. And if anyone in 2019 had suggested restricting the freedoms of the wider public as the best method of mitigating staffing shortages, they have been sent to the nearest loony bin. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, Aladdin said: I'm not in favour of the current restrictions but I recognise that this thread is likely not representative of the wider population. Like it or not, its England that is an outlier in western Europe where most have introduced further measures and I believe this will be recognised by many. Being an outlier doesn't mean you are wrong though. In this case it's quite the opposite. The other countries are effectively copying one anothers homework. These restrictions have been a misstep and I hope there is a lessons learnt and post mortem. Particularly over how data is being presented and subsequently reported. It really has been badly skewed to justify going further than is necessary. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fifer Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Despite being #BoostedByTheBells that's me caught the demon virus. Been in the pubs for a week solid but I wore my little mask when I went the 12 yards to the bathroom, so I thought I'd have been safe! Can't help but feel I've been lied to x 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Donathan said: Read a very accurate take on twitter that if the NHS is overwhelmed due to staff absence rather than than sheer numbers of sick people requiring treatment, then it’s really a crisis of our own doing. Whatever the effects of past recruitment failures and Brexit, Covid related NHS absences of up to 40% in London for example would be problematic in any circumstances. Edited December 29, 2021 by welshbairn -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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