Elixir Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 minute ago, scottsdad said: I made the same point on this thread months ago. Macron and Merkel basically trashed the AZ vaccine because it was British. Macron said it was "quasi-ineffective" for the over-55s. Merkel chose to have her second dose with a different type. The message that sent out, particularly to poor countries, was that the AZ vaccine was somehow unsafe and second class. SO people chose not to take it, preferring to wait for Pfizer or Moderna (which was 3 times the cost). In doing so, many people died of Covid as they were unvaccinated. Macron especially has blood on his hands. Yup, with the additional irony being that it is the most extensively used vaccine in the UK, and we have been open for longer and been less disrupted than either of the slow motion car crashes that have continued in France and Germany. I would imagine we have also had less deaths since the vaccine rollout. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 I hate how if you question the necessity of wearing a mask after being vaccinated people try to make you out to be some anti vaxxer weirdo or some selfish c**t not thinking about others Id love to know what % of the population are unable to receive the vaccine, and what are your chances of a random close contact encounter with one of these people 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Clown Job said: I hate how if you question the necessity of wearing a mask after being vaccinated people try to make you out to be some anti vaxxer weirdo or some selfish c**t not thinking about others Id love to know what % of the population are unable to receive the vaccine, and what are your chances of a random close contact encounter with one of these people They were also quite happy to grant an unlimited number of people an exemption 'becos o mah assssma', when there was literally no other mitigation on the table. Their desire to police the habits of the majority who accepted a temporary measure without brass necking it will be filed in the bin where it belongs then. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 I think there's mileage in that sentence. I guess Sridhar is getting it in the neck because they feel she has betrayed what was, for them, always a purely left wing cause and never really about health.I wonder if it was a labour government doing the exact same with binning masks and restrictions in the uk , would the right wing press and commetry be opposing them? Daily express calling the government “ hopeless wishy washy liberals putting peoples “right” ahead of the public health “ and how it was time we “ had a proper lockdown with the police and ar brave boys out enforcing it to keep us safe”, and masks at all times “ just like the bloody blitz innit!” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Clearly, another reckless decision by the UK Government to yeet all their restrictions, including masks, 'contact tracing' and vaxx passes, in the bin where they belong. Note: reinfections are also included in these figures, that's how over this farce is. We are never going to get anywhere close ever again to covid toppling the health service. So, when are the Scottish Government going to end the remaining pantomime measures? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, oaksoft said: I think there's mileage in that sentence. I guess Sridhar is getting it in the neck because they feel she has betrayed what was, for them, always a purely left wing cause and never really about health. There is certainly elements of folk feeling betrayed by Sridhar. Have a look below I have to give her credit. She has moved with the data - albeit a bit behind the data but at least she is saying that the end is in sight now. Compare with Deepti who is still chucking around figures and utterly trashing scientists who disagree with her views on long covid. Edited February 7, 2022 by scottsdad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Captain Tom's daughter at the rob. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 20 minutes ago, scottsdad said: There is certainly elements of folk feeling betrayed by Sridhar. Have a look below I have to give her credit. She has moved with the data - albeit a bit behind the data but at least she is saying that the end is in sight now. Compare with Deepti who is still chucking around figures and utterly trashing scientists who disagree with her views on long covid. “the other side” ugh, go and do one please 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 “the other side” ugh, go and do one please Exactly! Why the f**k should there even be “sides” in this, different opinions yes but same goal ultimately 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: I wonder if it was a labour government doing the exact same with binning masks and restrictions in the uk , would the right wing press and commetry be opposing them? Daily express calling the government “ hopeless wishy washy liberals putting peoples “right” ahead of the public health “ and how it was time we “ had a proper lockdown with the police and ar brave boys out enforcing it to keep us safe”, and masks at all times “ just like the bloody blitz innit!” Who knows? Back to reality. Tbf to Boris he tried to resist the ‘science’ at the start but the pressure was just too great and he had no alternative but to succumb. He then got hospitalised which probably affected his outlook but, at the earliest opportunity, he started to unlock and, most importantly, unlike the authoritarian SG, allowed the citizens in England to make up their own minds. Thats all I ask. To be treated as a grownup. If people want to cower in the house and only go anywhere with a mask, then that’s their choice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, oaksoft said: Not interested in showing my... medical status to a security guard to see a football match or handing over my personal details to get a pint. I was in town on Saturday to watch the rugby (brown shoes and jeans on, of course) and absolutely none of this happened. Everywhere I went was absolutely rammed with good guys (and gals) with not a mask or vaccine passport check in sight. As it has been for quite some time it's absolutely over for all bar the SG and their loyal band of the simpiest of simp disciples 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 2 hours ago, oaksoft said: It's the same to a lesser extent with the likes of Michie and Gurdasani. Nobody is really listening to that type anymore. Oh, I don't know. There are Main Players on here, who don't just listen to them; they go in search of what they're saying. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, Snafu said: A former Pfizer researcher blows whistle on company's methods and integrity around data on Pfizer's COVID vaccine trials and this is covered in the British Medical Journal. Said article is discussed on Facebook, article blocked, fact checked and dismissed as misinformation. The BMJ is fact checked by Facebook and one contributor even said that the BMJ is just a news blog. Extremely worrying if this is the route we are going down now. Bit of background links, first the article, then BMJ's battle with Facebook and their "fact checkers" https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635 https://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj.o95 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 On the mask thing again. I’ve noticed the narrative is starting to change from wear it to protect other people to wearing it for your own benefit / make you feel better 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Absolutely. Plus he is a founder of The Free Speech Union which helps protect us from, I would imagine, people like you. £25 per year.Twat would do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 On 06/02/2022 at 16:04, Dawson Park Boy said: Absolutely. Plus he is a founder of The Free Speech Union which helps protect us from, I would imagine, people like you. £25 per year. Holy f**k. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 14 hours ago, oaksoft said: This is why I've just completely avoided hospitality since restrictions began. Not interested in masking up to take a piss, showing my medical status to a security guard to see a football match or handing over my personal details to get a pint. Fair play to anyone who can enjoy a night out under these conditions but it's not for me. Hospitality is not a great draw for me anyway TBF, even pre-pandemic but having unwarranted government interference in these activities for no discernible benefit just makes my decision a more solid one. Shockeroonie! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 10 hours ago, Clown Job said: On the mask thing again. I’ve noticed the narrative is starting to change from wear it to protect other people to wearing it for your own benefit / make you feel better The narrative is actually now 'wear one to make others feel better, about their irrational dread of Shanicron and the three-day head cold it threatens'. A short, sharp, shock of binning this nonsense alongside 'free' LFTs is required to snap the psychos out of it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Imagine being duped by Toby Young into thinking he’s a bastion of “free speech”. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Another example of mask theatre. Im not allowed into nursery to drop off my daughter, the staff come outside to pick her up off me. However, parents are made to wear masks in the grounds while waiting outside, and the staff come out, not wearing masks, to collect the wee ones. Absolutely no logical reason for that to be a thing whatsoever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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