D.A.F.C Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 You've been watching too much CSI mate.Theres a record of connection from every phone tower or transmitter of your phones IMEI and the SIMs IMSI. Also when you connect via Wifi there will be a record of that. Add on apps like google, Facebook and others and I'm pretty sure even a half decent private investigator will be able to trace you these days.After 9/11 the NSA and the American government through Cheney brought in the Patriots act which allowed the government to spy on citizens. When they were caught through the mobile phone companies all they did was change the law to make them safe from prosecution.Not one terrorist was caught from this according to Snowden, he blew the whistle on the whole thing and had to go into hiding. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 58 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I see Germany are reopening their churches. That’s a great idea. If we want to test the possibility of a second spike caused by a relaxation of people gathering together then places of worship are the ideal venues to trial it. If it proves a causal effect we should still encourage it until we can determine the level of fatality. A silly, cheap remark. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 I'm all in on this dictatorship that you're advocating for. What flavour are we thinking? A juche cult? Absolutist monarchy? Latin American style el presidente?In fairness, he’s not arguing for fascism. It’s more of a romantic sense of Scottish exceptionalism. A Coronavirus may kill us all, but it’ll never take our freedom kind of approach. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: In fairness, he’s not arguing for fascism. It’s more of a romantic sense of Scottish exceptionalism. A Coronavirus may kill us all, but it’ll never take our freedom kind of approach. I didn't say fascism. Who said fascism? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Wee Willie said: Is it not better that decisions are taken in Scotland (for good or for ill) than the decisions taken in another country? No. A decision with an "ill" outcome for Scottish people would be far worse than a good one reached elsewhere. Your Scottish Nationalism seems very much of the mindless variety. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabianKnight Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 20 minutes ago, pandarilla said: Weirdly, i kind of trust that the government, when they bring this in, will be very careful on data protection. I think there's a deeper, more sinister element to the secret service who will already be doing whatever the f**k they like with folk's privacy - and we're generally none the wiser. I don't support that but what the f**k can you do to stop it? And this is a great point. The data that amazon and Google harvest in all of us is truly terrifying, and yet i can't be arsed enough to properly read into it and try to prevent it. We're sleepwalking into a surveillance dystopia (although that sentence should probably be in the past tense). This. Entirely this. Folk moaning about an invasion of privacy already have every aspect of their lives examined and recorded but just don't know it. God forbid an actual useful bit of data tracking comes up and the screeching intensifies... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkmenbashi Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 15 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Have been thinking that, with places like Australia where data collection and diagnosis is unlikely to be the explanation for low numbers. Little talk about it by the experts though since early speculation that it might be seasonal. Maybe there's still a chance of a hot summer here killing it off. Even if there is a seasonal variation for covid I don't think there is any danger of the weather in Scotland being consistently good enough to save us 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Just now, ArabianKnight said: This. Entirely this. Folk moaning about an invasion of privacy already have every aspect of their lives examined and recorded but just don't know it. God forbid an actual useful bit of data tracking comes up and the screeching intensifies... They've probably got Alexa recording and uploading everything they say in the house. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Turkmenbashi said: Even if there is a seasonal variation for covid I don't think there is any danger of the weather in Scotland being consistently good enough to save us The midges'll have its guts for garters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tight minge Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Have been thinking that, with places like Australia where data collection and diagnosis is unlikely to be the explanation for low numbers. Little talk about it by the experts though since early speculation that it might be seasonal. Maybe there's still a chance of a hot summer here killing it off.At times I think people are reading too much into numbers and curves over this virus. Its a virus its not systematic and comparing numbers of different locations where circumstances and testing is different can only give you a general idea. Its pretty much impossible to fathom real patterns and will be years before we can, but just a hunch that overall, South East Asia hasn’t had numbers you would expect and countries with climates 30+ are not returning high figures. However, many of these countries haven’t the best infrastructure so it is nothing more than a hunch. Certainly its still a problem, but looks possible that it may not be a potent in climates.It may actually be that P&B has always had the answer that countries and labs are investing millions trying to find....windows down and heating on full blast. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufc Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Theres a record of connection from every phone tower or transmitter of your phones IMEI and the SIMs IMSI. Also when you connect via Wifi there will be a record of that. Add on apps like google, Facebook and others and I'm pretty sure even a half decent private investigator will be able to trace you these days.After 9/11 the NSA and the American government through Cheney brought in the Patriots act which allowed the government to spy on citizens. When they were caught through the mobile phone companies all they did was change the law to make them safe from prosecution.Not one terrorist was caught from this according to Snowden, he blew the whistle on the whole thing and had to go into hiding.On the whole data protection thing, other than the fact i like big titted milfs and take the odd line of cocaine, i dont really have anything to hide 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Fair do's but IF we were independent then ALL decisions about Scotland would be made here by whatever person was the First Minister. They would be listening to advice from all sorts of people then they would act accordingly (for good or for ill). Again it would be decisions taken in Scotland and no by another country. But I see your point. 39 minutes ago, NotThePars said: I'm all in on this dictatorship that you're advocating for. What flavour are we thinking? A juche cult? Absolutist monarchy? Latin American style el presidente? Whit dictatorship am I advocating? Do you think it's right that a dictator in Westminster can err dictate to Scotland and say naw ye cannae hae a referendum. Or naw Trident is biding in Scotland. Or Scotland will pay her share of expensive English projects. I'm sure President would be a suitable title for the heid yin. Why do you disagree? 11 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: In fairness, he’s not arguing for fascism. It’s more of a romantic sense of Scottish exceptionalism. A Coronavirus may kill us all, but it’ll never take our freedom kind of approach. That is a stupid remark. Are you really content to have Scotland as a colony of Westminster? 4 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: No. A decision with an "ill" outcome for Scottish people would be far worse than a good one reached elsewhere. Your Scottish Nationalism seems very much of the mindless variety. Jeez, I've read some of your comments elsewhere but you are missing my point. Every decision regarding Scotland should be made in Scotland and no down in Westminster. If the decision is ill then so be it. Of course that would only be found out in hindsight. No government has the monopoly on good decisions. There will be some bad decisions but such is life. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 The Apps gonna run on bluetooth and not gprs. Many wont have a clue what bluetooth is.Many clearly dont have.If your bluetooth is permanently switched on your "device" is already being tracked to an extent. Bluetooth sensors probably in plenty places we already visit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heedthebaa Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, Tynierose said: Will someone give me a buzz when this thread gets interesting again... You could always move it to where it belongs now, the politics forum 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverton End Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, Tynierose said: Will someone give me a buzz when this thread gets interesting again... Needs more nursey stuff @Alert Mongoose 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Not that you can go on any data just now, but seems warmer locations have less numbers which may come out as something in the future.That's kinda what I was getting at. What are the contributing factors? Climate, genetics, diet, social norms?Every virus is different but hopefully there's enough to learn from this to help the next time we're faced with a similar situation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 https://twitter.com/CumbriaRoadsPol/status/1256510463128543232?s=19 Looking to start a GoFundMe to help pozbaird pay the fine -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, Tynierose said: Will someone give me a buzz when this thread gets interesting again... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Marshmallo said: https://twitter.com/CumbriaRoadsPol/status/1256510463128543232?s=19 Looking to start a GoFundMe to help pozbaird pay the fine By 'family gathering' they mean 'drug run', right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverton End Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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